Mirrorless camera: yes or no?

jh2586

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I've been hearing good things about the Sony A6000. Anyone have experience with it? Looking to 'upgrade' from my 700D, mainly for the wireless functionality to be able to send photos directly to my tablet/phone.

Does anyone know how the JPEG image processing is like on this camera?
 

Raider

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I have an A6000 and it's my favorite camera that I've personally owned. (Previous cameras are: Fujifilm X100T, Canon 6D, Canon 60D, Canon 20D). The tracking speed, frames per second (11), and image quality are hard to beat for the price. I would recommend getting the 35mm 1.8 lens vs the kit lens, the image quality really shines with it. I've thought of upgrading to the A6500 for the inbody stabilization and 4K shooting but I'm still super happy with the 6000 I can't justify spending the extra. But if I was buying new today, I might spurge a bit extra and get it.

Another camera you might want to look into is the Fujifilm X-T20 (swapable lens) or the X100F (fixed lens) it's comparable in price with the A6500 and the Fuji colors straight out of the camera are hard to beat. That's one thing I miss about the X100T.

As a side note, I do video and photography for work, I'm the "field photographer" since I don't mind travel. My road kit includes a Sony A7R2 and A7S2. Our in office camera kit is the Canon 5DIV, and the 5DSR (we also have all the previous 5D's that we've upgraded from over the years) as our main photographer prefers Canon.
 
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Kestrel

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The last DSLR I had was a Nikon D50 - purchased while living in Japan sometime in 2007. Sold it after returning to the USA, and used my old Minolta SRT and a combination of point and shoot cameras ever since. Been bumming my girlfriend's Canon T2i for the last few years, and finally decided to get something small to take with my on riding trips...

Wasn't sure if I wanted to take a huge plunge on mirrorless, so I recently purchased one to 'try out'.... It arrived last week - a Sony NEX-5N off eBay which was ~$160 w/ 18-55mm kit lens, with around 6000 shutter actuations - so rather lightly used. Outside of the slight annoyance of not having an actual viewfinder, it's a hell of a little camera. I've got a bunch of great old Minolta MC / MD lenses from my film setup lying around, and there's an adapter out for delivery in the mail today that'll let me put them on the NEX-5N. That's one nice advantage of mirrorless over DSLRs; much more simplistic to adapt older glass (of which eBay is FULL of stellar examples, for cheap) to this camera.

One of the perks of the Sony line is focus peaking, which gives you a colored shading over the parts of the picture that are in focus... which makes it really, really simple to focus older lenses on the LCD. I know other manufacturers have started to incorporate that into their feature sets as well - Fuji has it on some of their nicer mirrorless cameras, if I recall...

So far I'm quite impressed. We did a 'photo-off' with the Canon T2i we have (kit lenses, mind you, but same shots, same/similar settings/iso etc etc) and the Sony soundly beat it in image and video quality. The focus peaking feature was a huge help when it came to macro shots.

JPEG processing with Fuji's line tends to give nicer colors out of the package from what I understand, but that's not something that you can't alter yourself by shooting in raw, and adjusting. Sony's JPEGs aren't bad, either, FWIW.

For size comparison's sake, here's the NEX-5N next to the T2i - both with the 18-55mm kit lenses. The A6000 is a little bigger than my NEX, but it'll still come in under the T2i when it comes to bulk, and still fair much better than a traditional DSLR.

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I like this thing so far, and can definitely see myself buying more mirrorless stuff in the future. Going to go nuts later today once the mailman gets here and I can adapt my old Minolta glass, which are *great* lenses in of themselves.
 
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jt2

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The A6000 is an insanely good value. Even though it has been on the market since 2014, it'll hold its own on image quality with any crop sensor camera currently on the market, and it is half the size of them.

An EVF has the advantage of WYSIWYG, no chimping required.

Plus, as mentioned above, the shorter flange to sensor distance in a mirrorless allows you to use an optics-free adapter for other lenses.

That means not only can you take your pick of relatively cheap old prime film lenses (Minolta, Canon FD, Contax Zeiss are a few), but you can also adapt and use current Canon or Nikon AF glass and have full AF and aperture control using this here thing.

One thing you'll want to check if you're planning on using the Metabones is whether they've released firmware to speed up the AF on the A6000. I upgraded from the A6000 to the A6500 and have since gotten rid of the former, but when I tested both with the Metabones, the 6500 was much faster on the AF with Canon glass.
 

jt2

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Definitely wouldn't call an EVF an advantage., but I dunno.

You're right, I should have put IMO in front of that as an advantage. There is a lot of debate on the subject.

Personally, I like seeing what the sensor sees, especially when jacking around in manual mode. And focus peaking makes using manual focus with legacy glass or shooting macro a lot easier.
 

byke

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I had an A6000 and the image quality was surprisingly good. Sony makes great sensors. I didn't enjoy handling it though, too plastic'y. I don't think anyone coming from a well made dslr (i.e. not rebel type) would think it's well made, but maybe tolerable coming from the 700D. Not a big deal, it just felt cheap, cheaper than many mid-grade point & shoots.
 

byke

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You're right, I should have put IMO in front of that as an advantage. There is a lot of debate on the subject.

Personally, I like seeing what the sensor sees, especially when jacking around in manual mode. And focus peaking makes using manual focus with legacy glass or shooting macro a lot easier.

Ahhhh, okay, I agree. For the manual folks, you're right, it's definitely better.
 
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