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Rolls with it...
You could hear the Ca Am cars in Monterey, at the wharf, when they raced, they were that loud.
They are roving now. Almost always on bikes, it's intake noise not exhaust noise that sets off the sound meters.
The corkscrew has always been spectacular, but seeing Wayne Rainey fly past everybody on the old Turn 1 was an amazing thing to see.They were 500 two smokes until 2002 and a couple after that.
They were not as loud, but they did sound bad ass!! :thumbup
Did that change for 2019 ? The track day I did at Laguna last year had only one sound station, which was CLEARLY pointed out several times during the day, by both the booth operators and the TDP.
Waah, waah, value of their land. They bought it dirt cheap hoping to score big. Maybe they should have invested in something that added value for many instead of banking on greed and wretched excess.
Too bad their lotto bet didn't pay off. :thumbup
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The shoulda left it an artillery range....
They've been doing it for a few years now.
Combo track and artillery range, people do say watching racing gets boring sometimes....
As much as I love motorsports and the track, this is basically rich hobbyist fighting rich landowners. I'm not going to get too bent out of shape or worried about the social justice issues of closing a racetrack.
It's not just a racetrack. The johnny-come-lately whiners have complained about all the activities at Laguna Seca.It's a race track, not some great social good uplifting the poor from poverty. Maybe instead of burning gas and making tons of noise people should do something useful with their time and money?
Wretched excess is a pretty good description of motorsports....huge sums of money, fuel and land to keep a small group of pretty wealthy people entertained.
It's a race track, not some great social good uplifting the poor from poverty. Maybe instead of burning gas and making tons of noise people should do something useful with their time and money?
Wretched excess is a pretty good description of motorsports....huge sums of money, fuel and land to keep a small group of pretty wealthy people entertained.
What are you talking about? 50,000 spectators at a motorcycle race are all rich people? :rolleyes Are you sure you are on the right forum?Combo track and artillery range, people do say watching racing gets boring sometimes....
As much as I love motorsports and the track, this is basically rich hobbyist fighting rich landowners. I'm not going to get too bent out of shape or worried about the social justice issues of closing a racetrack.
It's not just a racetrack. The johnny-come-lately whiners have complained about all the activities at Laguna Seca.
There are plenty of non wealthy that enjoy it.
Track day riders, fans, turn workers etc.
The benefits may be wretched excess to you, but to me in my youth as a near broke racer with kids it was a lifeline to my passion.
Love me some Laguna.
What are you talking about? 50,000 spectators at a motorcycle race are all rich people? :rolleyes Are you sure you are on the right forum?
Race tickets are cheaper than Pro Football or Pro Basketball. I would go after those rich punks, first. Oh, and lets us not forget all the darn yachts in Monterey. Talk about rich hobbyists. I bet some of those weekend sailors are complaining about Laguna, because that's how they selfishlyrollfloat.
Is that refinery still using lead?
Huh... regarding Pasadera, Laguna Seca golf course was opened long after the track, in 1970. Pasadera devolopement was initiated by the Lombardos in the 90’s, early ‘00s after they were denied development of Rancho Canada in Carmel Valley, long after the track. Add in developements like Markham Ranch in the 90s, also long after the track was there. Additional developement in the Laurales area also brought in a lot of people that later complained about the track.
What was at the track location before Laguna Seca? A US Army artillery range all the way up to the mid 50s....
The Ryan Ranch area was barely there, York School, a few houses, and offices.
They are roving now.
The land Pasadera is on was bought by the Bishop family in the early 50s, well before the Track was built. Don't get me wrong, I'm a Laguna die hard, I'm just smart enough to know it's not a simple NIMBY issue, particularly if the sound studies were rigged.
And again, if you haven't been in the surrounding canyons on a unrestricted sound day at Laguna, you probably have no idea how loud it really is. It shocked me the first time I heard it from a couple miles away. And I love the sounds of the track.