Kids in racing article
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Razel
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Bottom-feeders just trying to make a buck ...
Lovedoc
That's COLD, Brrrr
Link not necessarily worth reading, but confirming Equestrianism, Rodeo and related sports accepted by society are really dangerous too, especially for kids. High school football even.
Wikipedia
Seeing those Med personnel at work, in racing it just goes from fun to horror so fast sometimes. MotoGP has way more med than any other events too.
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Wikipedia
Seeing those Med personnel at work, in racing it just goes from fun to horror so fast sometimes. MotoGP has way more med than any other events too.
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Ant
Pink Freud
Interesting you should mention those activities. I was kinda sorta on the fence about 12 year olds racing around at 120 mph and didn't even think about stuff like that.
JMardy
More head - less ass
A kid could get beaned in the head with a fastball and die, no one would start a crusade against baseball. Gymnast could land on his head, etc.
The kids that race that I have met do it because they love it, it is in their blood.
They are not pushed by their parents or anyone else. The sacrifices made by the entire family is amazing and it shows that the parents of these kids have chosen to let them follow their dreams.
I commend them for that. It is amazingly selfless.
The kids that race that I have met do it because they love it, it is in their blood.
They are not pushed by their parents or anyone else. The sacrifices made by the entire family is amazing and it shows that the parents of these kids have chosen to let them follow their dreams.
I commend them for that. It is amazingly selfless.
Phaedrus
We'll do it live!
High school football especially.
Human Ills
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So is there a lower age limit to roadracing motorcycles that would gain barf consensus?
Jgrrl
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I'm on the fence also (though that is a crappy article). If my girl had a passionate and love for motorcycle racing, I would definitely support her, though I'd be terrified.
A downed rider on the track is something that can't be prevented. Many of the recent deaths or serious injuries are a result of this very scenario. I was scared for Dovi's (and Vale's) life when he was down on the track at Brno. Vale came very close to hitting Dovi head on (oh the thought is horrible). Definitely the worst side of motorcycle racing.
Sorry got off topic.
Anyways on the other side there's noone saying you can't start later in life. I believe Max Biaggi started at 18 or something like that.
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Roadstergal
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Last June, a 6-month old baby was killed when a tree branch fell on her during a trip to the Central Park Zoo. Death is cruel, sudden, and unpredictable.
I definitely would not fault parents for not wanting their child to race. I wouldn't fault parents, either, for wanting their child to participate, equipping him or her with the best safety gear available, and realizing that nothing in life is certain - except that it's going to end, and we have to enjoy it in the meantime.
I definitely would not fault parents for not wanting their child to race. I wouldn't fault parents, either, for wanting their child to participate, equipping him or her with the best safety gear available, and realizing that nothing in life is certain - except that it's going to end, and we have to enjoy it in the meantime.
sliverstorm
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That really is heavily editorialized. Notice how Lenz was 13, yet by the time the article was over the author was making conjectures about 8 year olds, and even referencing 3 year olds. Sure, I wouldn't put a 3 yo on a bike going 120mph, but that's not what we're talking about.
Competitively? Full bikes and not those little pit bikes? I'd be comfortable with a lower limit of 12. I think that'd help ensure they are more mentally and physically developed, and they are beginning to become their own person.
Hey now. I still love the stuffed animal I've had since I was ~3. In storage, but I'm keepin' that thing. :x
Competitively? Full bikes and not those little pit bikes? I'd be comfortable with a lower limit of 12. I think that'd help ensure they are more mentally and physically developed, and they are beginning to become their own person.
Hey now. I still love the stuffed animal I've had since I was ~3. In storage, but I'm keepin' that thing. :x
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Lovedoc
That's COLD, Brrrr
Horses are worse for fractures and death. Fewer participants, lots fewer helmets.
They start racing minimotos in grammar school. The usual roadcourse racebikes at 12 years have 30'ish HP. Elena started racing 600's I think at 15.
Hacking too, early twenties.
Z3n
Squid.
Bayliss did some racing in his youth (dirt stuff), but didn't start club racing until 23, I believe.
On the rest of it...perception is a funny thing. It's not about the actual risk of things, it's about the perceived risk of things. I bet many of the people screaming about how dangerous things are never thought to put their kids through some additional drivers training to help protect them from what is probably the most dangerous activity they do on a daily basis.
On the rest of it...perception is a funny thing. It's not about the actual risk of things, it's about the perceived risk of things. I bet many of the people screaming about how dangerous things are never thought to put their kids through some additional drivers training to help protect them from what is probably the most dangerous activity they do on a daily basis.
Roadstergal
Sergeant Jackrum
Couldn't agree more. Two quality racing schools within a day's drive of SF offer street driving programs for a cost likely less than the yearly car insurance for a teen - and how many Bay Area teens have been through it? That's also an issue where the fatility risk extends beyond the participant.
Human Ills
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What is the rationale for starting the kids so young? Is it merely so they MIGHT have a better chance at being GP stars when they get older? Take two 22 year old racers. Does the kid that was on a 250 at 12 really have that much more of an advantage to the kid that didn't ride 250's until he was 16? Are the lessons learned in those four years between 12 - 16 that much of an advantage?
Z3n
Squid.
There's a lot that goes into it, but the earlier you start the better for a variety of reasons. One is you start developing a feel for your bike at a much younger age, you get more experience, more comfort on the bike. Does 4 years of riding experience make a difference? Absolutely.
kevin 714
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Razel
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They enjoy it and they're good at it? Otherwise, wanting the kids to start young so they become top-tier racers is pretty sad parenting.
You have to look at each case one-at-a-time.
Human Ills
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That's the only good reason I can think of.
Ok. So if we mandate that kids can't ride certain bikes until they reach a certain age and make it uniform, erasing any advantage, what's the problem?
I guess I just have a problem with parents that try to turn their kids into the next sports stars. That goes for stick and ball sports as well.