Keith Code talks about trail braking

darkie

Dylan Code
Trail braking is a technique that can benefit certain riding situations. The interview below will provide information on the skill and teach various pieces of puzzle to help riders further their ability.

Here is an interview Misti Hurst did recently with Keith Code.

Misti: There is a lot of misunderstanding about the technique of trail braking; specifically people seem to be either for using trail braking all the time, or against it. Let’s start off first by defining trail braking. What exactly is trail braking?

Keith: It’s the tapering-off of brake lever pressure for controlling the bike’s rate of deceleration. That’s the most basic definition. Commonly, the term is used to reference the action of tapering-off brake lever pressure while leaning into a corner. Probably the easiest way to illustrate this is to get the idea of keeping the forks compressed roughly the same amount from braking through to leaning the bike into the turn. You would have to coordinate the release of brake pressure with the increase of leaning. The deceleration load on the forks diminishes while the cornering centrifugal force of the turn increases as the bike is leaned. That’s how I originally described and photographed it back in 1983.

Misti: Should new riders learn the technique of trail braking?

Keith: Every brake release should have some trailing off of lever pressure. Barring something like running off the road, there is no on-road or track cornering circumstance where an abrupt release of brake pressure is optimum.

Misti: Is trail braking a race and track only skill or should street riders use it as well?

Keith: As just mentioned, it's the correct way to release the lever for any corner entry situation. An abrupt release makes it quite difficult to accurately judge your final entry speed--if we call "entry speed" the speed that is left over right after the brake is released. We also know that the bike will continue to slow until the gas is back on enough to accelerate it. That in itself is a very interesting subject which most people misunderstand. Most think that rolling the gas on 10 percent or so will maintain their speed but it won't, most bikes continue to slow. At race pace, the bike will be slowing an average of 8 mph per second between the brake release and throttle-on. Specifically, at Laguna Seca on a Supersport bike it requires from 12% to 43% throttle, depending on the corner, before the bike begins to slightly accelerate, up to then it is losing speed rapidly.

Misti: Do you teach trail braking at the California Superbike School?

Keith: It’s a key part of our RACE school drills. It also comes up on Level 3 during a drill called Attack Angles. It can be covered at any time during Level 4 classes for which we have specific drills. Otherwise it’s also covered on request at any other point. It's interesting that the very best riders who have trained with us don't ask about it, they've figured out where it applies. Recently, trail-braking has become a topic. On-board footage of top racers clearly shows this technique in use. Riders intently study this footage trying to pick up wisdom that will make their riding better. Trail braking as a technique seems to have developed its own fan club. From some of its fans one could mistakenly get the idea that it is the "silver bullet" that will cure all your riding problems. Thinking that any one technique in our sport is senior to the others is like saying all a painter needs to be able to paint a masterpiece is to make sure the color “red” is included. It's a multi-layered, multi-tasking, multi-sense oriented sport where there are no easy routes to achieving your riding goals.

Misti: Are there any new braking drills?

Keith: Recently, I've been researching all the aspects of braking, amongst other things. Right now my list contains 5 stages of braking control, each with its own on-track drills. There are half a dozen other important aspects to braking that we also use to train and coach our students.

Misti: When you coach high-level motorcycle racers like AMA Supersport winner Joe Roberts, British Superbike Champion Leon Camier, etc. do you encourage or teach trail braking?

Keith: It rarely comes up as a topic on its own. If a top level racer is having trouble with some aspect of his braking, often there is some underlying problem that when fixed, solves the whole thing. For that caliber of rider you are looking for the least time on the brakes and the earliest on with the gas. In all cases, they want to minimize the time on the brake and maximize the time on the throttle with no coasting. On the track there are cornering situations that demand some extended trailing of the brakes, mainly places where you can't get the bike turned quickly to your knee. For example, nearly all decreasing radius turns require a longer tapering off of the brake because the steering into them is more gradual. Some double apex turns we will see riders trailing the brakes well past the first apex. Where it applies it applies. Theoretically, you would be going the fastest if the tires were always just at the limit of traction, whether from acceleration, braking or cornering. In auto racing they commonly use circular graphic representation of G forces called the “traction circle”. It shows G forces in all directions while driving. The idea is to keep the meter as close to the edge of the circle (the theoretical limit of traction) as much as possible while going around a track. Trailing the brakes is required to accomplish this in most corners. However that style of riding/driving would not be recommended for a Sunday ride down your favorite road. In any case, you certainly wouldn't want to be thinking circles and numbers while riding at any sort of quick pace, you'd want to be feeling what the bike's tires were actually doing.

Misti: So, the winning rider's you've coached and trained do or don't trail-brake?

Keith: They do where it applies. You asked about Joe Roberts, who set the American racing community on its head last year by winning 5 out of 5 races he entered and who had never raced a 600 before; he doesn't like to trail-brake. His competition did like it and you could see the difference in their styles and the results. In the 8 years we've been training Joe I'd say we spoke of trail-braking 2 or 3 times. There are so many other important fundamentals to master which put the bike under the rider's control and, frankly, give him more options in how to ride corners. Just as the painter must learn to draw well and understand contrast and perspective and form and a dozen other things to make that masterpiece so the rider must have the underpinnings to be able to make decisions on his handling of corners and to make them his own. It's the ART OF CORNERING not just the techniques.

Misti: Do all the top racers in AMA, World Superbike and Moto GP trail brake?

Keith: For the corners where it applies, for sure. Keen observers of the sport will notice that the deep trailing of the brakes that was so popular a few years ago has evolved somewhat. In only some corners will you see the brake still on at the apex. When you see a rider’s hand back on the gas before the apex, which you see more and more, you also have to realize that it takes 1/2 second to transition from brake to gas. At 60mph that 1/2 second is equal to 44 feet (about 6 bike lengths) earlier where the brake was actually released. You can find all sorts of exceptions and variations to technique. A rare example is the Moto3 riders going into turn one at Phillip Island, you see them turning in with the throttle wide open, then going to the brakes after the bike was well-pointed into the turn. One of the reasons riders were deep-trailing the brakes is because they could. I mean that the newer race front tires allow very heavy, leaned over braking. One of our students who had won in Moto 3 and Moto 2 graduated to Moto GP and I'll never forget how enthusiastic he was about how amazing the Moto GP front tires were under braking. I suspect James Toseland fell under the spell of this when he went from WSBK to Moto GP, he even mentioned it in some interviews. It clouded the issue of how to ride those bikes well. Remember that was the time when MotoGP went down to 800cc and all the top riders were talking about keeping up mid-corner speed versus a point-and-shoot style. Even in slow corners he was giving up so much by deep-trailing. Rossi, Stoner, Pedrosa were off the brakes 15 to 30 feet earlier and back to gas at, for example, turn #11 at Laguna Seca while he was possibly thinking how great the front tires were sticking under braking to the apex. Seeing how deep-trailing has devolved reminds me of the era where nearly everyone was backing the bikes into corners. It was so much fun and so spectacular and the fans loved it. Where did it go? You see much less dramatic "backing in" compared to a few years ago. Now it’s more the chassis setup causing the bike to back in regardless of the rider’s intent, such as some of the Moto2 bikes. The riders did it because they could and then everyone realized it was huge fun but in most cases slower, especially for Superbikes and MotoGP bikes.

Misti: Can you compare trail braking in cars vs. trail braking on a motorcycle?

Keith: That's easy, you can't tuck the front wheel from over-braking while leaned over and you can’t fall off a car! But with cars you have a wide variation of how to use the brake and throttle depending on the car’s configuration: front-wheel drives require different technique than rear wheel drives, as do all-wheel drives; also if the car is front, rear or mid-engine. I’d say the application is more consistent regardless of the type of bike you ride. Of course trailing the brakes changes the bike’s geometry by compressing the forks, this changes fork rake, overall ride height, trail and wheelbase.

Misti: Do those changes in geometry help or hinder the rider?

Keith: It's a bit of a Devil's tradeoff; the steepened rake will make the bike turn easier as does the slightly shortened wheelbase help that, but, the increase in trail is what makes the bars feel heavy and somewhat unresponsive under brake trailing. Because the braking expands the contact patch area to the inside of the bike's center line, it counter-steers the bike upward, a little or a lot. You can do a simple experiment to feel a light version of this by getting the bike leaned over in the corner, go back to gas and then off the gas. When the weight transfers forward, off gas, the bike's first response is to stand up some. That same effect is amplified if brakes are used while leaned over. To counter that "stand up" action the rider must apply some bar pressure to hold his lean. Rider's learn to do this almost unconsciously. It's quite similar to the false perception that the bike stands up on corner exits from acceleration, which it does not. Riders unconsciously steer the bike up as they add gas. The big negative is that the fork's are restricted in their ability to rotate side to side that slight amount that you feel when cornering. That slight oscillation is necessary for the bike's stability, which I covered in A Twist of the Wrist, Vol II. These forces are in conflict with one another and the forks become less compliant, less able to follow the road's surface changes, under those conditions. The tire then begins to "dance" over the ripples and bumps. This, I'm convinced, contributes greatly in even the top riders losing the front and low-siding while trail-braking.

Misti: How high a priority should trail braking be given to riders that are just getting involved in the sport?

Keith: That depends on how you approach their training. You certainly wouldn't start a new rider off training him to trail brakes before he had some idea of how he should take a corner to begin with. You'd want to give him a solid grounding in several other basics like that before launching into that technique.

Misti: Some people believe that you either do it all the time in all corners or you don’t do it at all. What are your thoughts on this?

Keith: It is irrelevant whether you are finishing off your braking straight up or leaned over, you always trail off the brakes. The logical approach is to train someone to do that straight up first. Later you could take up trailing them leaned over.

Misti: Is there a hard fast rule that braking should be done BEFORE you tip the bike into the turn?

Keith: There are 27 references to trailing brakes and why in my three books on riding. They were released in 1983, 1986 and 1993, way before there was any controversy on the subject. Interestingly, those books were the first time anyone had approached trail-braking in writing and photographed the advantages and uses of the technique for motorcycles. No one can argue with that, it is the first written history of trail-braking for motorcycles. These days, from how some riders talk about it you'd think that trail-braking was some new innovation, just invented. It’s probably due to me describing it as “braking while leaned” or “letting of the brakes while leaning in” instead of calling it “trail braking” which had previously been an exclusively car racing term.

Misti: What is the difference between trail braking into the turn, and braking in the middle of a corner?

Keith: Trailing in is for speed and line setting. Braking in the corner is an emergency situation, they are totally different. One is calculated the other is out of necessity and often panic.

Misti: Would carrying some brake pressure into the corner help you if you had to brake suddenly in the middle of the turn because the brake pads are already touching the rotors?

Keith: Keeping a finger or two resting on the lever helps reduce reaction time, but you don’t have to have the brakes slightly engaged whenever cornering “just in case”.
You can apply the brake as fast as lightning provided you do so lightly. It's the pressure at the end of the brake pull that is critical not how fast you pull it in. A quick on-track braking action takes as little as 2/10ths of a second to get to full brake pressure for some turns. If you snapped the brakes on to a very light pressure you could get into the brakes even at a good lean. It wouldn't feel very stable but you can do it. Our Panic Brake Bike fitted with outriggers allows riders to practice rapidly going to the right amount of pressure without overstepping the boundaries. Five minutes on that bike is better than five hours of talking about braking.
 

budman

General Menace
Staff member
Awesome :applause

Back in the day Keith helped me immensely in getting the trail braking right to keep the bike loaded perfectly ( for me ) for transition to gas, which was now. No coasting!!

The amount of gas depended on the turn of course, but I studied Eddie Lawson in detail as the man I considered the smoothest man with the bike that went fast and did not fall down a lot. Your Dad's teaching/coaching kept me on two wheels while progressing as a racer by using my brain.

Sure did appreciate that a love to seem him every time I get the chance.
It is so cool of him and you to share your life and wisdom with our members.

Thank you D!! Hey to pops for me too.
 

shouldnthave

Taze away, Yana...
Nice Dylan.

Like the way you explain things to me better though. Much less condescending attitude than your father. You have a humbleness about your knlowage your father lost long, long ago.

When are you going to get a blog, book, and video? Let me know when you do; I'll sew your transcribed wisdom across the land. You crazy shoe wearing corner god, you.
 

darkie

Dylan Code
Nice Dylan.

Like the way you explain things to me better though. Much less condescending attitude than your father. You have a humbleness about your knlowage your father lost long, long ago.

When are you going to get a blog, book, and video? Let me know when you do; I'll sew your transcribed wisdom across the land. You crazy shoe wearing corner god, you.

Haha Here's a picture of Keith's alter ego! Sometimes people can get frustrated because he really forces the students to dig deep and find their own answers to riding problems. Usually those discoveries are remembered farther into the future than someone coming out and telling a student what to do. I've learned that different students have different ways of learning and that instructors have different ways of teaching. But it is true that nothing pleases him more than figuring out how some aspect of riding works and helping a rider as a result.
 

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budman

General Menace
Staff member
And yes. If your willing to dig deep and think and apply there is much to grasp onto.

So very cool.
 

shouldnthave

Taze away, Yana...
Haha! You're right, and your fathers method did teach me incredible amounts of knlowage. However, you were the keystone of the correct delivery for me. Had it not been for you, my learning type, and this horrible personality I was blessed with, CSS would have just been four days of track time, and thousands of dollars.

Though you are a product of your father, you fill the gap he leaves empty for crazy assholes like me.

I look forward to seeing you, and those silly ass shoes at the track again soon.
 

latindane

Learner. EuroPW, NaPS
As a "recent convert" to trail braking, I can try to give a perspective on why it is so "popular".

First thing is that trail braking is not only not mentioned, but in my experience implicitly discouraged, in new rider courses. I heard what sounded like one of THE rules of riding: "do all your breaking before turning in". Being introduced to trail braking after that, seems like opening a door to some other dimension where you have more control over corner entrance speed.

Which brings me to the second point: an increased feeling of control over what happens mid-corner. Before knowing how to trail brake, there was always this fear of cooking the corner, coming in "too hot". Having the possibility of continuing to brake after turn-in (which, recall, was an impossibility in my head before this) makes for much more confident cornering, leading to fewer scary moments and their bad consequences that follow if you allow the survival reactions to take over.

Short version: reducing the likelihood of scaring myself mid-corner reduces the likelihood of triggering a problematic survival reaction, leading to safer riding for me. This, of course, does not mean trail braking in every turn, just that knowing how to do it makes for more "in control" riding.
 

darkie

Dylan Code
latindane:

I would agree with you that this technique would be very helpful if overcooking a corner. I suppose we could say that many top racers are on the verge of overcooking most of the corners they approach.

I'd say that canyon riding with many linked corners, all about the same speed, would be a situation where one would be modulating speed with gentle throttle roll-on's and roll-off's, with some gentle touches on the brakes. If one were on the same road but accelerating very hard between turns, then we'd see more trail braking.
 

alexbn921

Active member
Coming for a car racing background trail braking was just something you were used to. When I learned to ride almost all of the car skills transferred over. Of course you take it easy and slowly learn the new vehicle, but feeling what the tires are doing and seeing the line through the corner are almost identical. In my race car I would left foot brake, sometimes even trailing off the brakes while picking up the gas to minimize the coasting transition. Trail braking comes down to feel and comfort. Can you feel the limit of traction and how big of a safety cushion you are leaving yourself as you lean it into a corner.
 

DataDan

Mama says he's bona fide
I'm sure everyone posting in this thread already knows why one might NOT want to trail brake, but in case someone reading wonders why MSF failed to teach them this technique...

The motorcycle corners best ON THE GAS.

Not accelerating hard, but rolling on the throttle gradually and smoothly through the turn. This extends the rear suspension, increasing ground clearance, and shifts cornering load to the rear tire, which is more forgiving (unlike a car). Kenny Roberts talks about the latter advantage in his book Techniques of Motor Cycle Road Racing (p41, emphasis is mine):
A lot of guys are so slow to turn and so slow to get on the throttle that the front end will push. The front end will never slide with the power on, once you get above idle. I've never pushed the front tyre on a high speed corner like this because even if it starts to go I am on the throttle so soon that it will not go anywhere.​
He's describing a particular turn, but this is generally true of motorcycle cornering.

More to the point of trail braking (I'm not sure the term was being used in motorcycling at the time, 1988), he writes:
How you make the transition from braking to turning depends on what sort of corner it is [Keith made this point in the interview]. On a high speed corner like the one at Paul Ricard we have been discussing, you want to be coming off the brakes as you flick it in. The bike should still be kneeling on the front wheel as you turn in, so it is low and turns in easily. If you let the brakes off completely before you start to turn, the bike will come up and want to go straight on. You need to flick the bike while the centre of gravity is lower and the steering head is steeper, just before you let the brakes off.

There are slower, longer corners where you can still be doing some braking as you turn. But the ideal is that you should be off the brakes and over to the maximum lean in the shortest possible time, so there is no rolling in to the corner on the brakes.

The ultimate is to get the braking and flicking over in the shortest time.​
Note the distinction. Smoothing the transition between braking and steering is a good thing. But that doesn't imply a gradual transition.
 
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Judaslefourbe

Well-known member
Interesting how you can see him cracking the throttle open and not hearing the engine rev up.
I am guessing it is because he is not accelerating yet, correct?
 

NoneMoreBlack

flâneur
Interesting how you can see him cracking the throttle open and not hearing the engine rev up.
I am guessing it is because he is not accelerating yet, correct?

I believe he would still technically be decelerating at that time, due to the gearing reduction of the smaller tire diameter as you are leaned.

Correct me if I am wrong though please.
 

darkie

Dylan Code
Yes a few things will slow a bike in a corner off throttle.

The gearing reduction, as mentioned. Plain old wind resistance. And also cornering friction. Leaned over in a corner off-throttle can slow the bike as much as 8 mph/sec.

But there is another thing to consider. The hand will move a little to take up the play in the throttle before it goes to positive throttle.
 
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