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BillSmith

Mild Hawg
According to Allstate:

Top 10 Cities With America's Worst Drivers

2012 Ranking 2011 Ranking Chance of accident vs. nat. avg.

1. Washington, D.C. 1 112%
2. Baltimore 2 88%
3. Providence, R.I. 5 81%
4. Hialeah, Fla. 11 78%
5. Glendale, Calif. 3 76%
6. Philadelphia 6 64%
7. Alexandria, Va. 10 63%
8. Newark, N.J. 4 59%
9. Miami 16 58%
10. San Francisco 9 55%
 

Spikestrip

Excessively Superfluous
I'm surprised Atlanta isn't on that list. But Hialeah at number 4, separate from Miami at number 9 is believable. I came from the hell hole known as Florida.
 

rodr

Well-known member
Dunno what those are percentages of -- but surely there's way more that goes into accident statistics than how good the drivers are. Congestion, for example.
 

ahnh666

Well-known member
armenians drive really fast and dangerous...super aggressive drivers in glendale...for san francisco, i'm sure narrow lanes, one-way streets, three street intersections, funneling freeway entrances, etc. all contribute to this....driving in los angeles is frustrating by traffic, but pretty much straight forward checkboard roads and many freeway options...

According to Allstate:

Top 10 Cities With America's Worst Drivers

2012 Ranking 2011 Ranking Chance of accident vs. nat. avg.

1. Washington, D.C. 1 112%
2. Baltimore 2 88%
3. Providence, R.I. 5 81%
4. Hialeah, Fla. 11 78%
5. Glendale, Calif. 3 76%
6. Philadelphia 6 64%
7. Alexandria, Va. 10 63%
8. Newark, N.J. 4 59%
9. Miami 16 58%
10. San Francisco 9 55%
 

ob1ventura

Well-known member
Dunno what those are percentages of -- but surely there's way more that goes into accident statistics than how good the drivers are. Congestion, for example.

Read the article a couple of days ago. I believe the conclusions were based upon the number of collisions per the # of drivers.
 

Traq

Well-known member
Dunno what those are percentages of...

Chances of getting in an accident vs national average...so like for DC you're more than double the chance of being in an accident. In SF you're 55% more likely vs national average.

It makes more sense if you look at the frequency instead of percentages.

In DC the average driver is in a wreck every 4.7 years. In SF it's every 6.5 years. So like the average American is in a wreck every 10 years or so.
 

PorradaVFR

The Temptations of Christ
I'm surprised Atlanta isn't on that list. But Hialeah at number 4, separate from Miami at number 9 is believable. I came from the hell hole known as Florida.

Yep. Everytime I go back I wonder how the hell I survived riding there for years.
 

revnort

Tasty Pants
LOL at DC, B-more and Alexandria all being in the top 10.

Having grown up there I can say the amount driving necessary is what pushes those numbers up. Also the entire DC/MD/NOVA area is a complete cluster fuck traffic wise. Throw the Philly stat in there and you have an insane amount of square miles filled with shitty drivers.

For the past 15 years or so I have seen it get increasingly worse. Actually when I was still living in DC I started noticing that the weekends were the worst time to be driving. Literally worse than rush hour all day long from 10am-11pm.
 

JO EBRMC

Is idjut
A little easier to read:

[TABLE="head"]Rank |City | |greater-than-average-accident-frequency
1 |Washington, |DC: |112.10%
2 |Baltimore, |MD: |87.90%
3 |Providence, |RI: |80.90%
4 |Hialeah, |FL: |77.60%
5 |Glendale, |CA: |77.50%
6 |Philadelphia, |PA: |64.10%
7 |Alexandria, |VA: |62.60%
8 |Newark, |NJ: |59.40%
9 |Miami, |FL: |58.40%
10 |San Francisco, |CA: |54.60%
11 |Jersey City, |NJ: |53.90%
12 |Arlington, |VA: |53.00%
13 |Tampa, |FL: |50.20%
14 |Los Angeles, |CA: |48.50%
15 |Paterson, |NJ: |46.90%
16 |Fullerton, |CA: |42.70%
17 |Garland, |TX: |41.60%
18 |Elizabeth, |NJ: |41.50%
19 |Bridgeport, |CT: |41.20%
20 |New York, |NY: |41.10%
21 |New Haven, |CT: |37.50%
22 |Torrance, |CA: |36.70%
23 |Norfolk, |VA: |36.30%
24 |Yonkers, |NY: |36.20%
25 |Arlington |TX: |35.40%[/TABLE]
 
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Var

One Track Pony
armenians drive really fast and dangerous...super aggressive drivers in glendale...for san francisco, i'm sure narrow lanes, one-way streets, three street intersections, funneling freeway entrances, etc. all contribute to this....driving in los angeles is frustrating by traffic, but pretty much straight forward checkboard roads and many freeway options...

Plus they have an incredibly high fraud rate. Half those accidents were probably on purpose with their friends
 

fast4d

Well-known member
armenians drive really fast and dangerous...super aggressive drivers in glendale...for san francisco, i'm sure narrow lanes, one-way streets, three street intersections, funneling freeway entrances, etc. all contribute to this....driving in los angeles is frustrating by traffic, but pretty much straight forward checkboard roads and many freeway options...

lived in glendale, burbank and SFV for over a decade.


never seen so many BMW 5/6/7/X, MB E/S, range rovers coming out of apartments. :laughing

most of them probably have salvage titles.
 

Daks

Jersey Devil
Not surprised Newark is up there.

NJ drivers drive like NY drivers but for no goddamn reason. So they're just stupid idiots. At least in NY you have to be fuck-all aggressive.
 

RaptorFA

EarShplitinloudenboomer
...for san francisco, i'm sure narrow lanes, one-way streets, three street intersections, funneling freeway entrances, etc. all contribute to this...

Not to mention those damned cyclists riding in the streets and getting in the way of everything... Oh wait, different thread... :rofl
 
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