It didn't take law firms long to start exploiting this pandemic for profit.

Climber

Well-known member
Nine Northern Californian residents who were on the Grand Princess Hawaii cruise sued Princess Cruise Lines and its parent company, Carnival Corp., in federal court in San Francisco Wednesday for alleged negligence in exposing them to the virus, according to the East Bay Times. Two passengers and one crew member died from COVID-19 complications; 103 individuals on board the ship tested positive.
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I expect numerous lawsuits to be filed over this pandemic, especially if there is success with these.

I wouldn't be surprised to see those bottom feeders at Sokolove Law Firm to start running ads for anybody who caught the virus while being 'forced' to work.
 

Archimedes

Fire Watcher
I expect numerous lawsuits to be filed over this pandemic, especially if there is success with these.

If by numerous you mean tens of thousands, then I agree. And I've said this from the start - post epidemic, I expect that employers will require employees to sign a waiver accepting the risk of infection by working and absolving the employer of any responsibility related thereto, including any requirement of the employer to ensure disinfection of the premises or test people in any way for the virus.

Nobody is forced to work. Each person can assume the level of risk they desire.
 

CDONA

Home of Vortex tuning
Nope, HR's need to write a clause about covid19, if you catch it, you will be terminated with the same effect as "illegal drugs"
 

Climber

Well-known member
If by numerous you mean tens of thousands, then I agree. And I've said this from the start - post epidemic, I expect that employers will require employees to sign a waiver accepting the risk of infection by working and absolving the employer of any responsibility related thereto, including any requirement of the employer to ensure disinfection of the premises or test people in any way for the virus.

Nobody is forced to work. Each person can assume the level of risk they desire.
Technically, that might be true, nobody is putting a gun to their heads and forcing them to work.

However, in practice people are being forced to work out of necessity.
 

Sharxfan

Well-known member
Nope, HR's need to write a clause about covid19, if you catch it, you will be terminated with the same effect as "illegal drugs"

Yeah I don't think you want to start down that slippery slope....got a cold fired.....got a case of the pregnants Fired..... Excema fired..... the list can go on and on.....:thumbdown
 

bojangle

FN # 40
Staff member
Yeah I don't think you want to start down that slippery slope....got a cold fired.....got a case of the pregnants Fired..... Excema fired..... the list can go on and on.....:thumbdown

There's this little thing called the ADA that makes this stuff illegal.
 

Sharxfan

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I know was just responding to the absurdity of the premise of the quoted post. Hey there is a disease you can catch that is totally not your fault for catching but let's have a clause in your contract that you can be fired for getting it.....

Now if you have it and try to french kiss all your coworkers I think that calls for some kind of punitive action.....:troy
 

GAJ

Well-known member
I'm assuming that we will see ads to the effect that "if you were a worker for an "essential business" that caught the Virus call us."

Then they will sue the business for not following proper practices.
 

bojangle

FN # 40
Staff member
I know was just responding to the absurdity of the premise of the quoted post. Hey there is a disease you can catch that is totally not your fault for catching but let's have a clause in your contract that you can be fired for getting it.....

Now if you have it and try to french kiss all your coworkers I think that calls for some kind of punitive action.....:troy

Attempted murder.
 

CABilly

Splitter
I'm assuming that we will see ads to the effect that "if you were a worker for an "essential business" that caught the Virus call us."

Then they will sue the business for not following proper practices.

There are worker protections in place for a reason. If someone is required to work, they need to be protected. Everyone can sue everyone into the ground and maybe in the end everyone gets nothing but it’s unacceptable to require someone to work in an unsafe environment without providing the necessary safeguards. Employee safety should come first.

If there were “proper practices” in place and the employer did not follow them, then they should be liable. It’s why we have OSHA.
 
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GAJ

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There are worker protections in place for a reason. If someone is required to work, they need to be protected. Everyone can sue everyone into the ground and maybe in the end everyone gets nothing but it’s unacceptable to require someone to work in an unsafe environment without providing the necessary safeguards. Employee safety should come first.

If there were “proper practices” in place and the employer did not follow them, then they should be liable. It’s why we have OSHA.

If you think EVERY employer is not liable, no matter how good their practices, then you haven't seen the feeding frenzy over the last two decades in California that is called the ADA combined with the Unruh Act.

The "guidance" has been poor and retailers especially are making it up as they go. Lawyers with 20/20 hindsight will point to the final measures taken and argue they should have been established at the beginning.

Employers will be bled dry just trying to offer a defense, never mind a "settlement."

This will create a new feeding frenzy for some lawyers.
 

Archimedes

Fire Watcher
Technically, that might be true, nobody is putting a gun to their heads and forcing them to work.

However, in practice people are being forced to work out of necessity.

Then they shouldn't oppose opening the economy up. You can't have it both ways. You can't blame an employer if they open their business up and you decide to go to work, under the argument that you HAD to work. If they had stayed shuttered, you wouldn't have been able to work, so you could choose not to work if they open up.
 

ctwo

Merely Rhetorical
There are worker protections in place for a reason. If someone is required to work, they need to be protected. Everyone can sue everyone into the ground and maybe in the end everyone gets nothing but it’s unacceptable to require someone to work in an unsafe environment without providing the necessary safeguards. Employee safety should come first.

If there were “proper practices” in place and the employer did not follow them, then they should be liable. It’s why we have OSHA.

In the olden days when we just had flu, what about protecting workers from that? Nothing was ever done that I could see. People come to work and might just get a cross look by some. That's it.
 

Archimedes

Fire Watcher
There are worker protections in place for a reason. If someone is required to work, they need to be protected.

Agreed, which is why nobody is required to work. If you don't feel that your safety is reasonably assured in the workplace, you should stay home.
 

Killroy1999

Well-known member
In the olden days when we just had flu, what about protecting workers from that? Nothing was ever done that I could see. People come to work and might just get a cross look by some. That's it.

The hand sanitizer that I am using now was handed out by my employer back during H1N1. They tried.
 

Pushrod

Well-known member
Silver lining.

I will no longer, in my lifetime, have to endure bro-hugs and fist bumps to express faux affection from dudes I casually know.
 

Climber

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Lawsuit: California universities owe virus-related refunds
LOS ANGELES (AP) — The California State University and the University of California systems were sued Monday by students demanding refunds of some campus fees since the virus pandemic closed schools and forced learning online.

The class-action lawsuits, filed in federal courts in Los Angeles and Oakland, say that the systems that serve more than 700,000 students have refused to refund unused portions of fees for campus-related services that spring-semester students aren't using, such as health facilities, student association dues and student centers.
More efforts to squeeze money out of this pandemic. No surprise.

The students are unlikely to see much money from this, but the law firms stand to make $$$$$.
 
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