If not California, where??
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Sprinklerhead
Ruining biker reputations
Seattle. I've lived up there before and loved it. You can also ride pretty much year round.
rsrider
47% parasite 53% ahole
Tennesee has some amazing roads, and the plant life is almost tropical looking. Nashville is more cosmopolitan than you would think, and Memphis is a pretty interesting city.
Missouri is another state that has some decent MC roads. But being the home of John Ashcroft, it is scocially retarded. I was born there, and it wasn't until I was 19 that realized I was allowed to leave(I stole that joke).
I was an Air Force brat, and I've been to a lot of places. CA is starting to seriously suck ass, the only thing is has going for it now is weather. But 30 years ago, this place was the best in the world.
I'm thinking New Zealand.
Missouri is another state that has some decent MC roads. But being the home of John Ashcroft, it is scocially retarded. I was born there, and it wasn't until I was 19 that realized I was allowed to leave(I stole that joke).
I was an Air Force brat, and I've been to a lot of places. CA is starting to seriously suck ass, the only thing is has going for it now is weather. But 30 years ago, this place was the best in the world.
I'm thinking New Zealand.
yzsofst
Well-known member
i would love to see New Zealand
personally, if i could manage it i would move every few years....but if i had to live in one place for good i think it would be someplace in europe, because i could go to a bunch of other places very easily because of how close they are together. maybe someplace on the Med.
personally, if i could manage it i would move every few years....but if i had to live in one place for good i think it would be someplace in europe, because i could go to a bunch of other places very easily because of how close they are together. maybe someplace on the Med.
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M
Moving Target
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south carolina,,,cheap livin and lotsa a beautiful roads
so what if they have hurricanes, just adds to the fun
so what if they have hurricanes, just adds to the fun
Eisernkreuz
unteroffizier
Ratters said:
I agree. Well, except I don't have any (non-immediate) family here within a 5000 miles radius.
Now I just gotta get Raytheon to hire me..
2StrokeGrrl
2 stroke addict
Let's see. Here, we have the coast about an hour away. Likewise with the Mountain resorts for skiers/snowboarders. An abundance of twisties all around, relatively deserted. Cultural amenities aren't bad, although not the same scope as Bay area.
Affordable housing--especially on this (Washington) side of the border. Median housng price approx. $130K with plenty of decent older 900-1200 sg. ft. examples between $85-$110K.
The only real drawback is the ubitiquous cloudiness between November and May. However it rains a let less than most people are led to believe.
Affordable housing--especially on this (Washington) side of the border. Median housng price approx. $130K with plenty of decent older 900-1200 sg. ft. examples between $85-$110K.
The only real drawback is the ubitiquous cloudiness between November and May. However it rains a let less than most people are led to believe.
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christofu
Pavement Inspector
I already defected to Fernley, NV and I LOVE living here (but Jenna and I are introverted, so living in the middle of the desert does not bring any hardship).
Nevada has no income tax and no business tax. The economy here is booming. Housing is still cheap (compared to the Bay Area) but all the escapees from CA are gradually driving up the prices.
I think this is definitely the best part of Nevada. Las Vegas is a fun place to visit, but Fernley is also filling up with defectors from Las Vegas.
The weather here is great! Mid-to-high 80s or low 90s in the summer, 40s to high 50s in winter, close to snow (actually snows here sometimes, enough to be fun, not enough to be a pain). Hiking, swimming, kayaking. Dirt biking (I just open my garage door and kick start the bike and I'm off onto hundreds of miles of trails). In Fernley there's a roadracing course (Reno-Fernley) and a motocross track.
Oh, we also have 5 acres, one for every horse we own. Dogs run with me every day without leashes (through the desert). No poop bags required: doggy poop dries up and blows away within a couple of days (if the coyotes don't eat it first) and since we're the only ones out here it's not like someone's going to tread in it.
This might be the best place I've lived. The rest of the list includes:
Sydney, Australia
London, UK
Grenoble, France (down south in the French alps)
Belmont, Bay Area, CA.
That's in order. For me (and just my own opinion) the Bay Area was the worst place I've lived! I'm not saying it was bad at all, just those other places had other qualities that edged it out.
Nevada has no income tax and no business tax. The economy here is booming. Housing is still cheap (compared to the Bay Area) but all the escapees from CA are gradually driving up the prices.
I think this is definitely the best part of Nevada. Las Vegas is a fun place to visit, but Fernley is also filling up with defectors from Las Vegas.
The weather here is great! Mid-to-high 80s or low 90s in the summer, 40s to high 50s in winter, close to snow (actually snows here sometimes, enough to be fun, not enough to be a pain). Hiking, swimming, kayaking. Dirt biking (I just open my garage door and kick start the bike and I'm off onto hundreds of miles of trails). In Fernley there's a roadracing course (Reno-Fernley) and a motocross track.
Oh, we also have 5 acres, one for every horse we own. Dogs run with me every day without leashes (through the desert). No poop bags required: doggy poop dries up and blows away within a couple of days (if the coyotes don't eat it first) and since we're the only ones out here it's not like someone's going to tread in it.
This might be the best place I've lived. The rest of the list includes:
Sydney, Australia
London, UK
Grenoble, France (down south in the French alps)
Belmont, Bay Area, CA.
That's in order. For me (and just my own opinion) the Bay Area was the worst place I've lived! I'm not saying it was bad at all, just those other places had other qualities that edged it out.
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MiniNC35Grl
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Denver. Thundercat & I are moving up there in one year....I can't wait!! We can afford a brand new 2200 sq ft home (plus 700 sq ft basement) with a three car garage :cool , for only $272K :wow And 300 days of sunshine every year :thumbup My electric vest will come in handy :teeth
wickerman777
Bring your own citrus
I just got back
From a month long drive/ride through the lower half of the country 8 months in florida and a year in Mi but during all of this got to see alot of other area's of the country. Haven't been abroad so can't compare but I'm never gonna live anywhere besides the bay area again if I can help it. All I ever used to do before I left was complain about how backwards and fucked up this place was and how I couldn't wait to get out but now I know better. This place rocks and if I ever did move again it would be to a less populated part of the state where I could come back out to the city when I felt like it. Anyone thinking about moving away. Think real hard about all the things that you may or may not be taking for granted right now and picture yourself without those things cause I couldn't deal with it once I left and wasn't really as happy as I should have been.
Thank you Lisa for being a light in my darkness:rose
From a month long drive/ride through the lower half of the country 8 months in florida and a year in Mi but during all of this got to see alot of other area's of the country. Haven't been abroad so can't compare but I'm never gonna live anywhere besides the bay area again if I can help it. All I ever used to do before I left was complain about how backwards and fucked up this place was and how I couldn't wait to get out but now I know better. This place rocks and if I ever did move again it would be to a less populated part of the state where I could come back out to the city when I felt like it. Anyone thinking about moving away. Think real hard about all the things that you may or may not be taking for granted right now and picture yourself without those things cause I couldn't deal with it once I left and wasn't really as happy as I should have been.
Thank you Lisa for being a light in my darkness:rose
