H2 powered sport tourer !!!!!

Mr Pepsi

Mr Pepsi

Mr Pepsi (Brent)
Yes this has been making the rounds on the Concours sites. Speculation is that this may be the replacement to the Concours, even though it's quite a bit different.

People have also suggested this is a Photoshop by one of the Moto mags for now, based on paper specs.
 
mrzuzzo

mrzuzzo

Well-known member
Would be interesting if Kawi also introduces their semiactive suspension with this bike.
 
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Schnellbandit

I see 4 lights!
Sorry, it looks just like another sports bike with tacked on side bags, a fairing that is afraid to be one and a seat that only a 2x4 could love.

European sport tourers and sport touring in the USA is different. Here we often have some distances to cover with mundane freeways and such before we get to those iconic roads. Not everyone wants to take the luggage off and then hit a track day with their ST either.

Compare this to the Motus and then see what a real purpose built ST can do and how it can do it.

Alas, this is all we can expect from Japan. They threw in the towel on the Honda ST1300 after letting it languish and barely addressing snall things that could have evolved it into excellence, Yamaha bailed and gave us the FJR with a 6 speed and some improvements but couldn't even begin to address weight, Kawasaki is going this way instead of tweaking the Concours to make it the do all be all of STs and Suzuki with it's grunty 1250 engine in the Bandit can't even provide slap on truly adjustable suspension and is doing what Kawasaki is trying next, slap side bags on a sports bike and calling it sport touring.

More and more riders are finding a sub 500 pound ST would be the ticket along with truly integrated luggage, up to date suspension, a decent seat and adjustable ergos with enough range to get past the corner.

If all there is are spirts bikes with tack on luggage I can just by whatever has 200 hp and bolt givi bags on myself.
 
Hooli

Hooli

Big Ugly
I'm not paying $30K for that. :laughing

I'd sooner wait for Yamaha to produce a S/T version of the FZ10.
 
Whammy

Whammy

Veteran of Road Racing
Whammy don't Tour, tourer, tourerer..
Whammy don't cruise!

I forgot to have my daily dose of Pez.:teeth
 
budman

budman

General Menace
Staff member
Tour with me Whammy... we will put the wham back in it. ;)

Agree with Schnell .... if someone can get a sub 500 lb. awesome sport tourer I would be scream "THANK YOU"

I love my Duc but 40 less pounds would be most awesome and it has already gone on a diet so call it 80 from stock.
 
Whammy

Whammy

Veteran of Road Racing
Whammy likes super motoing.
I already have a Dorsoduro, thinking of picking up a Ducati Hypermotard from auction and fixing it up.
A friend of mine found one recently and picked it up for a song.
Rearset, shifter, brake and one fairing later its damn nice bike.
Then again I guess I could try one of those touring things and get some training wheels? Aren't those like really heavy?
 
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NoTraffic

Well-known member
It's funny no one mentioned the Honda VFR1200. I still have not seen one out on our roads yet even thought it's in the dealerships.

I would def. go for a FZ10 sport tourer.
 
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Schnellbandit

I see 4 lights!
Hooli said:
I'm not paying $30K for that. :laughing

I'd sooner wait for Yamaha to produce a S/T version of the FZ10.
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jumph4x said:
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Yes but at least doing what they've done in the past, the Japanese could copy and spit out an ST along the lines of the Motus for 1/3 the price.

Honda already has V4 engines, purpose built for motorcycles. The ST1100/1300 engines are nowhere near their output potential and they sit the same way as the Motus engine. Plus they have the VF engines already polished. Just add some displacement.

With newer frame technologies and available metals (Not KOBE steel lol) they could get a world class ST close to sub 500 pounds.

Honda had that marvelous V65 Sabre that for the faults can still humble a lot of liter bikes without even a downshift. It was much less weight than either the ST1100 or ST1300 but can walk away from both while towing a Harley.

The Japanese have fallen into the insect style genre of bike, everything looks like everything else. A green Suzuki? Could be mistaken for a Kawaski.

They were headed in good directions with the ST1300 and Concours but made them boats.

The big 4 only make bikes good enough, not as good as they are capable of.

7 speed tranny (6&5 for droning or those vista style sweepers)

A real seat, more than 1/2" adjustable

Real suspension

Dump as much unsprung weight as possible. Magnesium wheels, the new alloys not the junk.


Luggage on or off and make it look good, really good and include it.

A 275 mile range without trying

No more than 500 pounds ready to ride.

$15-20 K. Could be done.

They could do it and sell them as fast as they could make them.

MV Agusta came very close, very, all except for a V4 engine.

Only V4 engines are real engines.

Personal rant over, really.

Except, V4 engines are the only real engines that belong in an ST.

Ok, really over now.
 
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