Get them while young

[UDRider]

More and more people in US identify as non religious. So Christians came up with a solution. Start indoctrinating and re-inforcing it in public schools under the guise of teaching religion. :rolleyes

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...ec8ed509d15_story.html?utm_term=.41a501f0c286

When the class started with the very first Bible story — the story of creation — she was glad she had chosen it. Here at last was the story of human origins that she believed in — not the facts of evolution that she had been taught in her high school science class.

“When I started learning about [evolution], I thought: ‘That’s not true. Here’s what I believe,’ ” Dowdy said. “I just kind of push it aside now. I know what I believe in. It’s just something the teachers have to teach us, but, no, I believe in creation.”

Other students echoed her. “We’ve always in science learned that perspective, evolution and the big bang,” Morgan Guess said. “This is the class that allows us the other perspective.”

 

[Brokenlink]

I'm totally not getting your point. Is there a link or some sort of point?

 

[UDRider]

I'm totally not getting your point. Is there a link or some sort of point?

Oops, added. TLDR Conservative Christian group pushes lawmakers to add teaching bible in public schools, and it's already happening in few places.

 

[*Tina*]

If an elective, I'm fine with it, but if its a required class, FUCK NO

 

[KooLaid]

File this under Politics.

 

[ThumperX]

Seperation of Church and State: I has it!!! Where is it now?

 

[Climber]

Why do you think that Charter schools are being pushed so hard?

Does Religion Have a Place in Public Schools?

Whether or not charter schools are former sectarian schools with a makeover, the lack of public accountability for charter-school providers encourages fraud. The financial cases are many and disturbing, and reports of intellectually bogus curricula are common too, particularly as Christian fundamentalists make war on history and science. RES, the Texas-based charter-school organization, is a powerful example of the perils of charter-school curriculum, and the fallacy that “the marketplace” will police itself. RES charter-school curriculum materials include a biology text that presents creationism and evolution as equally valid theories, with the latter presented as being widely questioned and full of inconsistencies and contrary evidence (which is nonsense). Other examples of a desperately right-wing agenda include teaching that the feminist movement “created an entirely new class of females who lacked male financial support and who had to turn to the state as a surrogate husband;” that Democrat John Kerry’s war medals for bravery were “suspect at best;” and that the decline in Christian values caused World War I.

There has ALWAYS had an agenda.

 

[bojangle]

Separation of church and state. Period.

But, if they insist on opening the door to this, I would love to see representatives from the Church of Satan and the Church of Scientology go to those schools and demand equal time to teach the "secular history of their religions".

Maybe the Church of Satan can even be allowed to lead a prayer over the loud speaker when the children are not in school. After all, we are talking about governemnt tax payer funded schools here. Why would any one religion legally be allowed a preference? They're gonna have to learn about everything else as well, ya know, to be well rounded.

Or better yet, do it on your own time and your own dime.

 

[UDRider]

If an elective, I'm fine with it, but if its a required class, FUCK NO

Problem with that is what I quoted.

 

[UDRider]

Separation of church and state. Period.

But, if they insist on opening the door to this, I would love to see representatives from the Church of Satan and the Church of Scientology go to those schools and demand equal time to teach the "secular history of their religions".

Maybe the Church of Satan can even be allowed to lead a prayer over the loud speaker when the children are not in school. After all, we are talking about governemnt tax payer funded schools here. Why would any one religion legally be allowed a preference? They're gonna have to learn about everything else as well, ya know, to be well rounded.

Or better yet, do it on your own time and your own dime.

Church of Satan did similar thing when some state decided to put ten commandments on government property. They demanded their Goat thing be put there also. Oh how fast legislature backtracked. :laughing

 

[byke]

I like it when people bring up religious penetration into our gov't and someone will inevitably ask you to cite examples like it doesn't happen and they've got you on lock. Add this one to the list.

 

[auntiebling]

Church of Satan did similar thing when some state decided to put ten commandments on government property. They demanded their Goat thing be put there also. Oh how fast legislature backtracked. :laughing

they haven't really backed down yet, either side.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/satani...t-statue-arkansas-state-capitol-jason-rapert/

i bet that one goes to lawsuits

essentially the same tactic was used in oklahoma with a ten commandments effigy being first destroyed after installation, then ruled unconstitutional and never replaced.

 

[UDRider]

they haven't really backed down yet, either side.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/satani...t-statue-arkansas-state-capitol-jason-rapert/

i bet that one goes to lawsuits

essentially the same tactic was used in oklahoma with a ten commandments effigy being first destroyed after installation, then ruled unconstitutional and never replaced.

Ah I guess I remembered wrong. Thanks.

 

[byke]

"If you're going to have one religious monument up then it should be open to others, and if you don't agree with that then let's just not have any at all," said Satanic Arkansas cofounder Ivy Forrester, a rally organizer.

We're so dumb that we'd need a court to confirm something this obvious and even then, they probably wouldn't.

 

[SM610]

How bout a little atheism tossed in for a little balance?

 

[Abacinator]

Church of Satan did similar thing when some state decided to put ten commandments on government property. They demanded their Goat thing be put there also. Oh how fast legislature backtracked. :laughing

The Satanic Temple, actually. They've gone pro at trolling government funded religious activity, and had some measure of success. They even recently got tax exempt status as a religious organization :thumbup

 

[bojangle]

How bout a little atheism tossed in for a little balance?

I'm not so sure that's a religion.

The Satanic Temple, actually. They've gone pro at trolling government funded religious activity, and had some measure of success. They even recently got tax exempt status as a religious organization :thumbup

Good! Love it!

Everyone has the right to practice their religion, or not, on their own time, at their own expense. It has no place in government. Since it seems that in a few states, the powers that be have opened the door to religion in the classroom, and other government entities, then it seems like any other religion would have a constitutionally protected right to have equal time and representation.

If they teach 20 hours of so called "secular" Christian religion, a religion such as the Satanic Temple should have legal grounds to require the teaching of their "secular" religion in school too, or Muslim, or Jewish, and especially Scientology. If it's good for one, it's good for all. For it is illegal and unconstitutional to discriminate against people based on religion. And doing so at a separate school is inherently unequal. Where have I heard that phrase before?

I fully support the Temple of Satan in their efforts. Not because I believe in their teachings, but because I believe it is the best way to show how ridiculous church in public taxpayer school is, and will hopefully put an end to it.

 

[Climber]

I'm not so sure that's a religion.

It's not a religion, but it deserves equal protection and representation.

 

[bojangle]

It's not a religion, but it deserves equal protection and representation.

Yeah, I can see that argument.

But so much better if public schools just stick to real science and leave religion out. It should be practiced, or not, at home, church, temple, mosque, a park, etc. and not taught with taxpayer money.

 

[Climber]

Yeah, I can see that argument.

But so much better if public schools just stick to real science and leave religion out. It should be practiced, or not, at home, church, temple, mosque, a park, etc. and not taught with taxpayer money.

Agree 100%.

But, that isn't going to happen, there will always be constant pressure in parts of this country to put religion in places it's not meant to be.