Ford powerstroke diesels cheating emissions w/bosch

augustiron

augustiron

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As many speculated, the VW dieselgate cheat was used by many other diesel manufacturers to meet emissions requorements, the latest oitedn is the f250 and f350 powerstroke from almighty Ford.
With the f150 diesel due to be released soon, this is a kick in ford's nuts.

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Ford's F-250 and F-350 Super Duty diesel pickups, a slice of the top-selling F-Series, are spewing emissions as much as 50 times the legal limit of nitrogen oxide pollutants, according to the complaint. The trucks sold from 2011 to 2017 cost $8,400 more than their gasoline-fueled counterparts, the filing shows.

Ford marketed the trucks as "the cleanest super diesel ever," while the lawyer behind the suit said they should have been called "Super Dirty."

http://m.sfgate.com/business/articl...diesel-engines-12487688.php#item-85307-tbla-4
 
295566

295566

Numbers McGee
I want a Ranger Extended Cab with a longbed, 4WD, manual transmission, and a diesel. Though I know that will never be made, so I have no interest in new trucks.
 
N

Nucking Futs

Well-known member
295566 said:
I want a Ranger Extended Cab with a longbed, 4WD, manual transmission, and a diesel. Though I know that will never be made, so I have no interest in new trucks.
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x2 Brother. I can't believe there is no market for such a thing here!:mad
 
bikeama

bikeama

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Review on Truck Camper Magazine.

Not much payload left if the payload is important to you.

Payload Punishing Restrictions

Ford is restricting the availability of the new 3.0L diesel to its premium Lariat, King Ranch, and Platinum trims. Ford is then further restricting availability to SuperCrew (5.5-foot super short bed and 6.5-foot short bed) and SuperCab (6.5-foot short bed). Only fleet customers will be able to order 3.0L diesel F-150 in the XL or XLT trim levels. These restrictions throw two flags for truck campers. First, Ford states the maximum payload capacity of the 2018 Ford F-150 with the 3.0L diesel at 2,020 pounds. Presumably this is the maximum payload possible with the 3.0L diesel and the lightest XL trim build – a fleet only order.

Once you add the considerable weight of the Lariat, King Ranch, or Platinum trims, that payload will shrink considerably. I would not be surprised to see dealer-ordered 2018 Ford F-150 3.0L diesel trucks with payloads well under 1,500 pounds. The dealers always order the features and options customers want, payload capacity be damned.
 
Killroy1999

Killroy1999

Well-known member
I wonder if someone form Ford is going to go to prison like people from VW did.

The emission standards are very poor on Motorcycles for anyone who does not know.
 
boney

boney

Miles > Posts
There is a long history of emissions cheating by most manufacturers at some time or another, gas and diesel.

VW had the hammer dropped on them because they made excuses to CARB and the EPA and lied to their faces for almost a year while those agencies spent a lot of time, effort and money in an Ernest attempt to help figure out why their cars we behaving they way they were when VW KNEW THERE WAS A DEFEAT DEVICE.

If Ford throws themselves on their sword, it's likely to be much cheaper. But the trucks will have to be recalled, and non-recalled trucks will likely be unregisterable.

Look at the good side. Most diesel truck owners don't give a shit about the emissions and modify the truck anyway. The aftermarket will only become stronger.
 
Jalopyshoppe

Jalopyshoppe

idiot
If you follow the complaint, Ford isn't admitting fault yet, and I don't think they will. The numbers that they're coming up with are achieved by overloading the trucks and creating a very specific scenario.
I'm still holding on to my 7.3 MT trucks. Fuck the whole DPT/Urrea injection mess.
 
Charles R

Charles R

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I have to laugh a little at the "oh god! no payload capacity!" complaint about the Ford 150 in that quoted bit... 1500lbs.? Hello...that IS a half ton... (and perfect for a 3.0 turbo imo)

You want capacity, you buy a 250(3/4 ton) or 350(1ton).... And you don't put a small motor in it at all. lol
 
J

Junkie

gone for now
Jalopyshoppe said:
If you follow the complaint, Ford isn't admitting fault yet, and I don't think they will. The numbers that they're coming up with are achieved by overloading the trucks and creating a very specific scenario.
I'm still holding on to my 7.3 MT trucks. Fuck the whole DPT/Urrea injection mess.
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Do you have a link to cliff notes on that? all I'm finding is very vague articles and then the lawsuit itself.
Charles R said:
I have to laugh a little at the "oh god! no payload capacity!" complaint about the Ford 150 in that quoted bit... 1500lbs.? Hello...that IS a half ton... (and perfect for a 3.0 turbo imo)

You want capacity, you buy a 250(3/4 ton) or 350(1ton).... And you don't put a small motor in it at all. lol
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Half ton trucks have long been rated to carry more than half a ton. Hell, it's fairly common for cars to have a payload close to half a ton (so that you can put 4 Americans and some luggage in without overloading them).

If you look at the rated payloads of the F150 variants currently on Ford's web site, they range from an outlier at 1000lb (the SuperCab short bed Raptor, which is designed for off road rather than hauling and has a *tiny* bed) to 1680 as the lightest non-Raptor (4x4 short bed SuperCrew with 3.3 V6) to 3270 max (2wd regular cab long bed with 5.0 and tow package). The fact that the highest rated diesel has a lower rating than any of the engines except the total bottom of the basket V6 is odd, as diesels are traditionally thought of as the heavier duty engines.
 
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