Engine Break-In Question

MikeL

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So I just picked up a 2017 Harley FXDL S. Currently at about the ~230 mile mark and I've been following the engine break in procedures in the manual. Trying to keep all gears under 3500rpms, no full throttle take-offs, don't lug, etc.

I commute to work about ~13miles each way. It says not to maintain constant speeds during break-in period. I try to vary it, but mostly just RPM variation and slight speed change during that commute.

Would a 13mile commute potentially do any damage? I leave early enough where I can cruise the whole way in - no traffic.
 

rob linders

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I doubt it. Modern engines don't seem to really need break-in like they did 50 years ago. I believe an occasional higher rev through the gears won't hurt it either.
 

Moto Beck

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the constant speed thing is really a constant RPM IMO. If you have to go on the highway - constantly change gears to vary your RPM - try roll ons and decels - just don't keep it humming at a constant RPM
 

shouldnthave

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So I just picked up a 2017 Harley FXDL S. Currently at about the ~230 mile mark and I've been following the engine break in procedures in the manual. Trying to keep all gears under 3500rpms, no full throttle take-offs, don't lug, etc.

I commute to work about ~13miles each way. It says not to maintain constant speeds during break-in period. I try to vary it, but mostly just RPM variation and slight speed change during that commute.

Would a 13mile commute potentially do any damage? I leave early enough where I can cruise the whole way in - no traffic.

I doubt it. Modern engines don't seem to really need break-in like they did 50 years ago. I believe an occasional higher rev through the gears won't hurt it either.

:rofl
 

fast4d

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you need to warm it up for 10 mins and rev it every time you come to a stop and just before you go.
 

ST Guy

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Most of the break in happens in the first few seconds of running. And if you've ever seen how that is done at the factory, you'd know that the engine is broken in when you get it. I've never heard of a factory that babies the engines when they first fire them up. They put them on a dyno, fire them up, put them in gear, and run them through the gears, to near redline in each gear. After that, any break in you do is insignificant. The break in procedure is really more of something that the corporate lawyers want kept in the manual. That way they discourage the purchaser from riding an unfamiliar bike hard until they've had some saddle time on the bike.
 
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Busy Little Shop

Man behaving bikely...
Don't worry... you can continue the factory break in procedure by any
route you choose... the key is high revs... you see at the factory
they have already run the engine a high rpms to help seat the rings...
they are not thrashing your engine... you're doing what your engine
requires... The purpose of high rpms is initial seating of the piston
rings to the cylinder walls. The run is conducted at full power
because that is where greatest B.M.E.P. (Brake Mean Effective
Pressure) occurs and a high B.M.E.P. is necessary for good piston ring
break-in.

The cylinder walls of a new engine are not mirror smooth as one might
imagine. A special hone is used to put a diamond like pattern of
"scratches" over the entire area of the cylinder wall. The cross hatch
treatment of the cylinder walls plays an important role in proper
break-in of piston rings to cylinder walls. I mentioned that B.M.E.P.
was necessary to the "break-in" process. Here is how it works.

If you cutaway a piston, ring and cylinder wall and inspect under
magnification you see something to the effect of "saw teeth"... Given
that a film of lubricating oil holds the piston ring away from the
cylinder wall. Proper break-in of piston ring to cylinder wall
requires that the ring rupture or break through this oil film and make
contact with the cylinder wall. During such "metal to metal" contact,
the little peaks on the ring face and cylinder wall become white hot
and rub off. This condition will continue to occur until the ring face
and cylinder wall have established a smooth compatible surface between
each other. At this point, break-in is said to be relatively complete
and very little metal-to-metal contact will occur hereafter. In fact,
as the break-in process progresses, the degree of metal-to-metal
contact will regress.

cylinders_500.jpg


How do you know if break is done??? take a compression test... if your
engine shows factory compression then break in is complete... if your
engine shows less than factory compression then more break in is
require...
 
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