Dual Sporting laws... dual sport a 04 250X...? Street Legal Dirtbike

[Ghostrider2k1]

I'm reposting the directions as I was recently asked to by a fellow BARF member. The person who PMed me did ask me to take it down? I don't know why? It wasn't a big deal but whatever. Anyway I come to this board FOR INFORMATION from other motorcycle enthusiasts, this is one of the BETTER lessons that I've learned "the hard way" or by doing the leg work. I hear alot of barfers say "Do a search for that" instead of just helping. I figure if I know something that will help others... then I should help since that's ONE of the reason's this board is here? Isn't it? There is WAAAY too many BARFers that get on here simply to be jerks. I don't get it. I'm going to repost this as a new post just to make sure the info is available.

1. By a Baja Designs dual sport kit and install it. (They work well but the install may not come out 'perfect' but as long as everything works as it should)

2. Make appointment at CHP for a verification of facts inspection. This is where the CHP will inspect the motorcycle to see if the VIN on the engine match's the VIN on the frame etc. They will also check crucial box's on the form you bring them that says wether or not the bike passes California or Federal only CARB laws. Anyway thats up to the officer, I did it in Stockton and he checked the correct box's.

3. Go to a MOTORCYCLE (not automobile) brake and light inspector I went to a guy in Lodi D&D Customs in Lodi California and bring them the correct form printed from the DMV website (my guy knew all about it as he has done ALOT of customs etc and these types of inspections).

4. Print out the CHP 888 form (which is in the link I'm including) and fill it out. Basically it says that your bike meets CHP's requirements for motorcycles. Those being it has a headlight with hi-beam and low-beam, a working horn, a mirror (although mine did not and nobody ever asked) and that the headlight stays on for 15 minutes after the bike is turned off (weird rule I know but the Baja designs kit does all of this) and working brake lights and blinkers. The form says a bunch of stuff but at the end I think you check a box and make sure you include it with your paper work, it's essential.

5. Print out an application for title and fill it out from the DMV's website.

Go to the DMV with ALL of this stuff. You should have a Brake and light inspection form filled out by a motocycle brake and light inspector, the CHP statement of facts form filled out by a CHP officer, CHP form 888 and finally an application for title. When filing that out I think there is a place for dual sport registration. You have to pay BOTH dual sport and ON HIGHWAY registration but... now you've got a bike that can literally go ANYWHERE! Go to the link I included, read read read and then take the steps I wrote and you SHOULD be good to go. One of the main things going in is that the bike MUST be of a certain year otherwise you cannot do it, they passed a law in... 2004 I think that makes a LOT of bikes unable to dual sport for whatever reason. Basically if it's a 4 stroke green sticker you CAN do it, if it's 2 stroke for get it and if its 4 stroke RED sticker forget it. Good luck and let me know how it goes! http://www.bajadesigns.com/2005 We...ion_Packet.pdf

 

[Ghostrider2k1]

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[Junkie]

I thought this would make an interesting thread and shed some light on the current laws that our state government has thought up in some sort of attempt at 'helping' the environment? :rolleyes Anyway a fellow member PMed me about dual sporting an XR100 (which I did) and what it took. Below is that PM and follow up. Basically Baja Designs has a page that tells you almost everything you need to know on how to dual sport a bike. Personally I feel the law should be changed to allow ANY and ALL red or green stickered motorcycles to be dual-sported. If someone is riding a motorcycle they are putting out a lot less emissions then someone driving any gasoline powered car. I'm SURE someone is going to argue that because dirtbikes don't have smog equipment blah blah blah. To which I say, why can't we put a evap canister on a dirtbike and get a CARB sticker? Think of how much less GAS people would consume if we made the process easy/simple?
Hey no problem! I am VERY interested to see if you can get that bike plated. Those are GREAT bikes! I want a 250X (for trails) and if YOU CAN get it plated that would be awesome! Your right, it all comes down to emissions which is SOO ridiculous because these bikes do not put out hardly ANYTHING! Personally I think the law should be changed OR a company should sell aftermarket smog equipment to make bikes street legal. Let me know how it goes!

Bullshit on the bolded part. My Integra gets better mileage than my friend's plated 300EXC, and the emissions per gallon of fuel are FAR lower - no visible smoke on my car, very minimal smell especially once warmed up, etc... and that's a 20 year old car.

Hell, I get similar mileage on my CBR to my car, but the emissions standards on the car are more strict even with a 10 year age difference.


I would be VERY surprised if you could find a new (street legal) car that produces more of anything but CO2 per mile of operation when compared to any green sticker bike - let alone a red sticker bike.



I wish we could plate dirtbikes too, but your arguments are just plain false.

 

[Ghostrider2k1]

I'm reposting the directions as I was recently asked to by a fellow BARF member. The person who PMed me did ask me to take it down? I don't know why? It wasn't a big deal but whatever. Anyway I come to this board FOR INFORMATION from other motorcycle enthusiasts, this is one of the BETTER lessons that I've learned "the hard way" or by doing the leg work. I hear alot of barfers say "Do a search for that" instead of just helping. I figure if I know something that will help others... then I should help since that's ONE of the reason's this board is here? Isn't it? There is WAAAY too many BARFers that get on here simply to be jerks. I don't get it. I'm going to repost this as a new post just to make sure the info is available.

1. By a Baja Designs dual sport kit and install it. (They work well but the install may not come out 'perfect' but as long as everything works as it should)

2. Make appointment at CHP for a verification of facts inspection. This is where the CHP will inspect the motorcycle to see if the VIN on the engine match's the VIN on the frame etc. They will also check crucial box's on the form you bring them that says wether or not the bike passes California or Federal only CARB laws. Anyway thats up to the officer, I did it in Stockton and he checked the correct box's.

3. Go to a MOTORCYCLE (not automobile) brake and light inspector I went to a guy in Lodi D&D Customs in Lodi California and bring them the correct form printed from the DMV website (my guy knew all about it as he has done ALOT of customs etc and these types of inspections).

4. Print out the CHP 888 form (which is in the link I'm including) and fill it out. Basically it says that your bike meets CHP's requirements for motorcycles. Those being it has a headlight with hi-beam and low-beam, a working horn, a mirror (although mine did not and nobody ever asked) and that the headlight stays on for 15 minutes after the bike is turned off (weird rule I know but the Baja designs kit does all of this) and working brake lights and blinkers. The form says a bunch of stuff but at the end I think you check a box and make sure you include it with your paper work, it's essential.

5. Print out an application for title and fill it out from the DMV's website.

Go to the DMV with ALL of this stuff. You should have a Brake and light inspection form filled out by a motocycle brake and light inspector, the CHP statement of facts form filled out by a CHP officer, CHP form 888 and finally an application for title. When filing that out I think there is a place for dual sport registration. You have to pay BOTH dual sport and ON HIGHWAY registration but... now you've got a bike that can literally go ANYWHERE! Go to the link I included, read read read and then take the steps I wrote and you SHOULD be good to go. One of the main things going in is that the bike MUST be of a certain year otherwise you cannot do it, they passed a law in... 2004 I think that makes a LOT of bikes unable to dual sport for whatever reason. Basically if it's a 4 stroke green sticker you CAN do it, if it's 2 stroke for get it and if its 4 stroke RED sticker forget it. Good luck and let me know how it goes!

 

[froride1]

The thing is even before 2004 converting off-road bikes to street legal ones used a loophole in the rules. CARB (California Air Resources Board) rules said on road vehicles had to be certified by the manufacturer to meet on road emission laws and had to have labels saying that. But the DMV regulations didn't require the labels to be there or have them checked. So it was fairly easy to use Baja Designs instructions and get a dirt bike registered. I registered my XR650 in 2001 with no problems. The loophole pissed off CARB for years and in 2004 the DMV rules changed. Making it not impposible but close to it to register dirt bike for the street. Look at the screencap from the DMV regs.

It basically says that any off-road bike either with or without an label saying it meets off-road emission standards CANNOT be converted to street reg or dual reg. Of course poeple have done it, the DMV isn't filled witht he cream of the crop so it can be easy to fool them if you are persistant. The problem is if they figure it out they can and will pull your plate.

The other way peole have been converting bike is to use the rules the custom chopper guys use, which is to say the bike has been built from scratch or parts from many different bikes making it a new custom bike. This works but there are rules to how much of the original parts can be used to make it a custom. Obviously converting a dirt bike to street the bike is not a custom so again it is tricky to do.

I'm not saying don't try it, what I am saying is it is not easy to do and if you do get it done the risk of losing the plate is very real.

 

[Racer Al]

Here's a question that nobody seems to either ask or answer...

Say you manage to get your bike plated via the "custom/scratch built" method, and a year down the road, DMV decides they issued the plate "in error", and take it back.

Are there any fines associated with the revocation of the plate, or is the DMV going to let it alone with just the major bummer and heartbreak of losing the plate?

To my thinking, if it the legal/financial ramifications of having the plate revoked are simply the loss of money on the DS light kit, go for it -- you'll have a fun time for a while until you can't. You can always sell the DS kit on eBay. IF there's a hefty fine, forget about it.

 

[froride1]

I haven't heard of any fines just when you try to renew the bike they say nope send us the plate.

 

[Ghostrider2k1]

The thing is even before 2004 converting off-road bikes to street legal ones used a loophole in the rules. CARB (California Air Resources Board) rules said on road vehicles had to be certified by the manufacturer to meet on road emission laws and had to have labels saying that. But the DMV regulations didn't require the labels to be there or have them checked. So it was fairly easy to use Baja Designs instructions and get a dirt bike registered. I registered my XR650 in 2001 with no problems. The loophole pissed off CARB for years and in 2004 the DMV rules changed. Making it not impposible but close to it to register dirt bike for the street. Look at the screencap from the DMV regs.
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It basically says that any off-road bike either with or without an label saying it meets off-road emission standards CANNOT be converted to street reg or dual reg. Of course poeple have done it, the DMV isn't filled witht he cream of the crop so it can be easy to fool them if you are persistant. The problem is if they figure it out they can and will pull your plate.

The other way peole have been converting bike is to use the rules the custom chopper guys use, which is to say the bike has been built from scratch or parts from many different bikes making it a new custom bike. This works but there are rules to how much of the original parts can be used to make it a custom. Obviously converting a dirt bike to street the bike is not a custom so again it is tricky to do.

I'm not saying don't try it, what I am saying is it is not easy to do and if you do get it done the risk of losing the plate is very real.

You know what? Your right. BUT when you go to the CHP and the CHP is checking the box's on his form there is a box that says "Motorcycle meets Federal AND California emissions standards" IF he checks that box you've got yourself a plate. If he checks the box "Vehicle meets Federal standards" your screwed. It comes down to basically 1 box on a form. Lucky for me he checked the 'good' box and not the 'bad' one.

 

[froride1]

Yep, it all depends upon if the person doing the inspection knowing what they are doing. Also, if the DMV person knows what hey are doing they can derail the whole thing. Basically is is a crap shoot. In the end it is technically not possible to do legally and you will always run the risk of DMV figuring it out and yanking the plate.

 

[mweitz]

Yes, please post any of YOUR material that you would like. A PM is a PRIVATE MESSAGE. My message to you was private. If I wanted the information in it posted publicly I would have posted to a thread. It is also against the BARF Terms Of Service to repost a private message as well as being illegal.

In any case, you are pretty much correct. The whole thing hinges on how the "Vehicle Inspection" form is filled out. The DMV can't "derail" anything if your VIN form says you are good. In essence this is the piece of paper that says whether your motorcycle is "street legal" in California or not.

I suppose it is possible to just submit the VIN inspection form to the DMV regardless of what the CHP checks on the form and it is possible they won't know what to look for. This is a complicated and confusing task for the DMV employee and they don't come across it often so they may not know what to look for.

As a sidenote, you can have the verification performed by:

CHP
DMV
Local PD (If they have someone trained)
Auto Club (if they have someone trained)
Verification Service (I couldn't find one locally, but I'm sure there are some around, maybe ask at a dealership)

I do know FOR A FACT that they go over at least some of these with a fine tooth comb. I know of one being returned because the statement of facts for the brake and light inspection looked like a photocopy and they wanted the original. It was the original. :laughing

There is nothing about years. There are only VIN issues. Basically, if your bike is / would have been a red sticker it can't be plated according to several sources. The way a bike is designated as a red sticker is if the 8th character of the VIN is an 8 or a C. Othewise year is irrelevant in this process. However, I own a bike that falls in the red sticker rules, but is plated. I'm not sure if it got in under the wire, or if it was some sort of bizarre mistake at the DMV (It was plated at least two owners before me).

This is an expensive and time consuming process and it may blow up in your face. Figure at least a day to make your bike "street legal" in a brake and light sense (wiring, installing turn signals and brake lights etc). Figure 1 to 3 hours at the DMV. Figure a couple of hours getting a Vehicle Inspection (VIN Inspection), Figure at least 140.00 for a light kit and even more if you need to install a headlight. Figure a couple of hours getting the brake and light inspection.

The cost at the DMV is 90.00.

The cheapest "Enduro Kit" I've found is the Tusk Rocky Mountain one. It is 160.00. If you google around you can usually find a coupon code for 20.00 off orders of 150.00 or more. They also offer free shipping to CA and don't charge sales tax (though I'm sure you all will report it).

Tusk Enduro Kit

This kit meets the brake and light inspection criteria except for one thing, and that is a high beam indicator. You can pick up some cheap blue LED license plate lights at any auto parts store and wire them inline with the high beam and you are good to go. The kit needs to be wired directly to power so you can have the lights on while the bike isn't running.

EDIT: You are required to have a battery to pass the brake and light inspection. There is a Tusk kit from http://www.rockymountainatv.com with a small battery pack if you need one.

Fremont Cycle Salvage is a good place for the verification. They charge like 20 bucks and seem to be good guys.

If you have any additional questions, please feel free to PM me or add them to this thread.

Mark

I'm reposting the directions as I was recently asked to by a fellow BARF member. The person who PMed me did ask me to take it down? I don't know why? It wasn't a big deal but whatever. Anyway I come to this board FOR INFORMATION from other motorcycle enthusiasts, this is one of the BETTER lessons that I've learned "the hard way" or by doing the leg work. I hear alot of barfers say "Do a search for that" instead of just helping. I figure if I know something that will help others... then I should help since that's ONE of the reason's this board is here? Isn't it? There is WAAAY too many BARFers that get on here simply to be jerks. I don't get it. I'm going to repost this as a new post just to make sure the info is available.

1. By a Baja Designs dual sport kit and install it. (They work well but the install may not come out 'perfect' but as long as everything works as it should)

2. Make appointment at CHP for a verification of facts inspection. This is where the CHP will inspect the motorcycle to see if the VIN on the engine match's the VIN on the frame etc. They will also check crucial box's on the form you bring them that says wether or not the bike passes California or Federal only CARB laws. Anyway thats up to the officer, I did it in Stockton and he checked the correct box's.

3. Go to a MOTORCYCLE (not automobile) brake and light inspector I went to a guy in Lodi D&D Customs in Lodi California and bring them the correct form printed from the DMV website (my guy knew all about it as he has done ALOT of customs etc and these types of inspections).

4. Print out the CHP 888 form (which is in the link I'm including) and fill it out. Basically it says that your bike meets CHP's requirements for motorcycles. Those being it has a headlight with hi-beam and low-beam, a working horn, a mirror (although mine did not and nobody ever asked) and that the headlight stays on for 15 minutes after the bike is turned off (weird rule I know but the Baja designs kit does all of this) and working brake lights and blinkers. The form says a bunch of stuff but at the end I think you check a box and make sure you include it with your paper work, it's essential.

5. Print out an application for title and fill it out from the DMV's website.

Go to the DMV with ALL of this stuff. You should have a Brake and light inspection form filled out by a motocycle brake and light inspector, the CHP statement of facts form filled out by a CHP officer, CHP form 888 and finally an application for title. When filing that out I think there is a place for dual sport registration. You have to pay BOTH dual sport and ON HIGHWAY registration but... now you've got a bike that can literally go ANYWHERE! Go to the link I included, read read read and then take the steps I wrote and you SHOULD be good to go. One of the main things going in is that the bike MUST be of a certain year otherwise you cannot do it, they passed a law in... 2004 I think that makes a LOT of bikes unable to dual sport for whatever reason. Basically if it's a 4 stroke green sticker you CAN do it, if it's 2 stroke for get it and if its 4 stroke RED sticker forget it. Good luck and let me know how it goes! http://www.bajadesigns.com/2005 We...ion_Packet.pdf

 

[mweitz]

It is very difficult to get a custom build from the DMV.

If you can get one, I think you are good to go though.

Here's a question that nobody seems to either ask or answer...

Say you manage to get your bike plated via the "custom/scratch built" method, and a year down the road, DMV decides they issued the plate "in error", and take it back.

Are there any fines associated with the revocation of the plate, or is the DMV going to let it alone with just the major bummer and heartbreak of losing the plate?

To my thinking, if it the legal/financial ramifications of having the plate revoked are simply the loss of money on the DS light kit, go for it -- you'll have a fun time for a while until you can't. You can always sell the DS kit on eBay. IF there's a hefty fine, forget about it.

 

[mweitz]

Other ways to get a plate in CA:

1. Bring a plated dirtbike in from another state when you move here. Seems that this is one of the easier ways and I've even heard of recent year plated 2-strokes in CA.

EDIT: DMV Requires a VIN inspection for all vehicles imported into CA from out of state, so you can lose your out of state plate when you bring it to CA.

2. Buy the bike new and have the dealer submit it as a streetbike or dual. I've heard they go through about 50% of the time. It helps if you are friends with the owner of the dealership according to the guy at HH who told me that is how he got plates for his newer 250X and 450X. No, I don't know his name, or which dealership he went through.


3. Register the bike out of state, get a plate there, then bring it back.

4. Use an out of the way, OHV friendly DMV. Someone here I think said that the Los Gatos DMV is a good place to go. Redding is also supposed to be a "happy DMV".

Mark

 

[dukeryder]

So what does "EN" or Enduro mean on a dirtbike title?

I've seen some people selling bikes as "Enduro Capable Pink SLip" I have no clue what that means. If the title says "Off Highway" doesn't that pretty much shut the door?

 

[mweitz]

EN simply means that it has a light kit.

My WR426 is plated and when I did an engine swap on it the CHP verifier changed it to MX since I didn't have my lights / plate installed during the inspection. The DMV employee didn't notice and didn't change it on my pinkslip.

It doesn't mean shit to the DMV in regards to getting a plate. I have seen a plated 250X with the pink saying "MX" and I have seen other plated bikes with EN on the slip. It is just a description as to the type of bike.

There is NO relevance to what the title says. Your motorcycle needs two stickers to be street legal in CA. If it has the stickers, you are good to go. If it says "Not Legal For Street Use" on the OEM stickers, it isn't regardless of what anyone says. If it has the Ca and Fed emissions and on road stickers, you can convert your "Off Highway" to a "dual registration" or plated bike. Your new title will not say "Off Highway" or whatever after the process. This is a system put in place to accomodate a small group of people. Say you buy a dirtbike from the dealer and don't want to pay the registration for the street since you don't plan on riding any roads with it. The dealer sets it up as a green sticker. You decide later you want a plate, or sell it to someone that does. Bingo, the dual registration process.

I re-read some of this thread, and in regards to plating a bike out of state and bringing it in this is a crapshoot. The DMV is required to do a VIN inspection on all vehicles ithey issue a plate for from out of state. So, you can have your out of state plate pulled when you bring your bike to CA, or if you are lucky they will just issue you a new plate. If you do several vehicles at a time, like your RV, 2 cars, a truck and 3 motorcycles which are stuffed in your enclosed trailer your chances seem to be improved. :cool

I've heard there are some states that don't have a residency requirement for vehicle registration. So, you send them some $$$, they send you a plate and you are good to go.

What exactly are you trying to accomplish?

So what does "EN" or Enduro mean on a dirtbike title?

I've seen some people selling bikes as "Enduro Capable Pink SLip" I have no clue what that means. If the title says "Off Highway" doesn't that pretty much shut the door?

 

[elemetal]

All good information except one rule that changed in 2009 (maybe 2010) is who is can do the VIN inspection. It used to be as Mweitz stated (CHP, DMV LEO, Certified car club etc), that is still the case for autos but for motos its only DMV and CHP now, the others (local PD and car clubs) can't do the verification, only the lights' certification. The two things they want to see are the Federal emissions' sticker (that says it's meets the highway standards not 'closed course only') and the odo (as well as VIN # and engine #). If you don't have either of these you will get diverted to 'off road', if you didn't have an odo that's a red flag that the bike wasn's street legal from the mfc, not a deal breaker but a red flag.....

Just went through this with a Gasgas enduro which has no listing in the DMV library (good) but doesn't have the fed sticker (bad).

 

[mweitz]

There are a few instances where the CHP is required to do a verification, like an engine change. Certainly a verifier can do motorcycles otherwise dealerships would be required to bring all their vehicles to CHP or DMV to sell them. I think you were misimformed. The sheet itself states who can fill it out.

Lights certs are done by shops. I've heard that CHP can do them, but that hasn't been verified for me yet. Are you aware of anyone getting a "Brake and Light Inspection" at the CHP for the purposes of doing a dual sport, not for salvaged title and such.

All good information except one rule that changed in 2009 (maybe 2010) is who is can do the VIN inspection. It used to be as Mweitz stated (CHP, DMV LEO, Certified car club etc), that is still the case for autos but for motos its only DMV and CHP now, the others (local PD and car clubs) can't do the verification, only the lights' certification. The two things they want to see are the Federal emissions' sticker (that says it's meets the highway standards not 'closed course only') and the odo (as well as VIN # and engine #). If you don't have either of these you will get diverted to 'off road', if you didn't have an odo that's a red flag that the bike wasn's street legal from the mfc, not a deal breaker but a red flag.....

Just went through this with a Gasgas enduro which has no listing in the DMV library (good) but doesn't have the fed sticker (bad).

 

[dukeryder]

EN simply means that it has a light kit.

....

What exactly are you trying to accomplish?

If it was easy enough I was going to try and get a street plate for my KX now that I have a title. The DMV lady ticked off EN on the title app so I thought it might make it easier for me to get a plate. I DO have a headlight and brake and taillight for my KX but didn't have them mounted during the inspection. For the first time ever this bike now has a title! I'd have gotten it plated back in Louisiana after I put the light kit on but I had no title.

I know the logical thing to do is just get a plated bike, but I've not put a ton of time on this bike since rebuilding it a couple years ago. I've got the bike set up for me with fresh suspension sprung to my weight. Buying an overpriced plated bike is a crap shoot 'cause it could need $1,000 worth of suspension work and $500 worth of motor work. I just need to figure out if I should try and add a 3rd bike or sell my KX at huge loss...

I know there's plenty of factory Dual Sports out there for cheap but they're heavy and slow I've owned a bunch (Lc4, XRL, 2 DRZs).

Looks like my 250 is ineligible because of the C in the VIN

that qualify for the process must not have a 3 or a C in the 8th position of the frame number. You must have a current California green sticker in your name. You must have a California title in your name and in your possession. Allow 7- 10 days for delivery of the primer, some bikes and situations take longer. The bikes to be converted must have basic liability insurance.

Do WR450s have the 3 or C on the titles?

 

[mweitz]

Probably difficult to plate any 2-stroke in CA.

Some year WR450 are red sticker. That would be 2003 and 2004 I think. Maybe 2005 (search around and you can find it).

Red sticker VIN isn't what doesn't let you plate your bike in CA though ...

If it was easy enough I was going to try and get a street plate for my KX now that I have a title. The DMV lady ticked off EN on the title app so I thought it might make it easier for me to get a plate. I DO have a headlight and brake and taillight for my KX but didn't have them mounted during the inspection. For the first time ever this bike now has a title! I'd have gotten it plated back in Louisiana after I put the light kit on but I had no title.

I know the logical thing to do is just get a plated bike, but I've not put a ton of time on this bike since rebuilding it a couple years ago. I've got the bike set up for me with fresh suspension sprung to my weight. Buying an overpriced plated bike is a crap shoot 'cause it could need $1,000 worth of suspension work and $500 worth of motor work. I just need to figure out if I should try and add a 3rd bike or sell my KX at huge loss...

I know there's plenty of factory Dual Sports out there for cheap but they're heavy and slow I've owned a bunch (Lc4, XRL, 2 DRZs).

Looks like my 250 is ineligible because of the C in the VIN

Do WR450s have the 3 or C on the titles?

 

[WoodsChick]

I know there's plenty of factory Dual Sports out there for cheap but they're heavy and slow I've owned a bunch (Lc4, XRL, 2 DRZs).

Factory "dualsports" might be heavy and slow, but factory-plated dirtbikes such as the Husky TE line (250,310,450,510) and some KTMs are not heavy and slow. They're all heavier than your 2-stroke, but they're better for the street and very long days in the saddle. Get a test ride on one if you can. The KTM's tend to retain their value/high price, but the TE line can be found used for pretty decent prices.




WoodsChick

 

[dukeryder]

Yeah I've seen some decently priced Huskies and a few other exotics for not a lot of money but then I think about the supposed poor reliability, cost to fix it or if I need parts not being able to get them, I understand the Huskies are easier to find parts for than some of the lesser know makes. Not that Japanese bikes are always easier to get parts for 4 years ago I had the kickstand bolt for my KX back-ordered for 6 months! KTMs are a bit pricey and cheap ones sell fast; guess I gotta find a deal and jump on it!

I saw a '04 Husky 450 SMR for not a whole lot but it had 11,000 miles on it! I had a set of 17's on my XR650L and with Distanzias it could handle dirt roads and quad/snowmobile trails as long as there was no mud. If I'm going to spend the money getting another bike it might as well be one that's the most versatile...