Destruction of satellite dangerous to space travel -NASA

byke

Well-known member
We're so dumb that we think trash in places we can't easily see must be okay. With our legalized ocean dumping, we'd be hypocrites to cry about space.
 

Schnellbandit

I see 4 lights!
If the concerns of NASA are valid, what would it take to make near earth orbit so dangerous that it becomes impractical to venture there or through it?

It seems like it could be done and without a way to correct the problem. The results would be rather immediate as opposed to the slower effect of other pollutions.
 

byke

Well-known member
If the concerns of NASA are valid, what would it take to make near earth orbit so dangerous that it becomes impractical to venture there or through it?

It seems like it could be done and without a way to correct the problem. The results would be rather immediate as opposed to the slower effect of other pollutions.

Lots of environmental concerns out there are valid, but the ones that fiscally benefit from fucking it up are out there to confuse the issue to the point that an average person no longer knows if the concerns are valid. Personally, I'd find it hilariously sad and super fitting if we could no longer travel to space because of all the garbage. If only we had to travel underwater, or underground, in order to realize the same.
 

auntiebling

megalomaniacal troglodyte
Staff member
un fucking believable.

India intentionally destroyed one of its satellites with a missile last week, a move Prime Minister Narendra Modi welcomed as one that established India "as a space power."

sure does, but it also makes you a bunch of arrogant narcissistic assholes. conveniently, more proof of such is provided further down the article.

But NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine told employees on Monday that it posed an "unacceptable" threat to astronauts on board the ISS.

He said the satellite shattered into pieces, many of them large enough to pose a danger to the space station but not large enough to track. It is unclear how many pieces of debris were created.
"What we are tracking right now, objects big enough to track - we're talking about 10 cm (4 inches) or bigger -about 60 pieces have been tracked," he said.

one would not be making a big leap to interpret this as "there are thousands of pieces of debris that we can't track up to about 4 inches in size"

a BB sized piece of space debris is a big deal. if it hits something, it'll cause damage. like a PAINT FLAKE


G. Satheesh Reddy said:
"That's why we did it at lower altitude - it will vanish in no time," he told Reuters. "The debris is moving right now. How much debris, we are trying to work out, but our calculations are it should be dying down within 45 days."

SHOULD. that's the best you've got for endangering the sake of 6 human beings on the space station for the sake of your sabre rattling display? big whoop, you hit a satellite. welcome to introductory physics.
 

auntiebling

megalomaniacal troglodyte
Staff member
If the concerns of NASA are valid, what would it take to make near earth orbit so dangerous that it becomes impractical to venture there or through it?

It seems like it could be done and without a way to correct the problem. The results would be rather immediate as opposed to the slower effect of other pollutions.

there is always a way to correct a problem. nobody wants to pay for it in this case though.

for like, forever, commercial satellites approved for launch have had to have a "deorbit" plan that encompasses both planned end of life deactivation and some foreseeable failure scenarios.

https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/spacecraft-graveyard/en/

it is precisely to avoid space junk that this is a mandatory thing. even during the depths of the cold war with reagan's StarWars missile system, doing what india did would have been roughly unthinkable.
 

byke

Well-known member
From Business Insider and Space-Track, whoever they are, so take it for what it's worth...

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auntiebling

megalomaniacal troglodyte
Staff member
funny that globalstar is it's own entity. it's a little hazy but there are 48 operating satellites on orbit at any one time for the consteallation to work, and 4 on orbit spares. i wonder what the balance of the 85 thingies is. rocket bodies of their own perhaps? they were launched on racks, 6 maybe per launch? curious
 

Blankpage

alien
Pssssht, who cares? Since when did we start believing what scientists said?

Only climate scientists don't know what they're talking about :confused



The right answer would be to roll out the sanctions against India just for being so dumb. Of course looking at that chart above maybe a kick in the balls all around is in order.
 

afm199

Well-known member
There's so much orbital debris up there that tracking it is becoming impossible. This single incident is just a slap in the face, not a knife in the belly.
 
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