Daytona 200 finish crash who is at fault?

Zerox

Zerox

Can I be....frank?
I voted "racing incident" because I don't think Herrin had any idea he was going to hit another bike's brake lever.
 
mototireguy

mototireguy

Moto Tire Veteran
Wowie!

Can't say I see any negligence or foul play on that crash.

Can they just chalk it up to super close elbow banging tight racing action and call it a day? Or someone has to take the blame?
 
darkie

darkie

Dylan Code
The general rule is that the person in front has the right of way and you can't actuate someone's brake lever from behind.

I voted "racing incident" too.
 
mean dad

mean dad

Well-known member
darkie said:
The general rule is that the person in front has the right of way and you can't actuate someone's brake lever from behind.

I voted "racing incident" too.
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:confused

then it's your contention that westby applied his own brake?

or that since josh was in front (since you can't actuate someone's brake lever from behind), he had the right of way, and was free to actuate westby's brake?
 
Aluisious

Aluisious

Well-known member
Looks like bad luck that he happened to bump the brake lever. At the speed it went down you couldn't see that sort of thing coming.

edit, hah, I thought of bark busters too. It's not like he reached over there and grabbed the lever, come on.
 
darkie

darkie

Dylan Code
mean dad said:
:confused

then it's your contention that westby applied his own brake?

or that since josh was in front (since you can't actuate someone's brake lever from behind), he had the right of way, and was free to actuate westby's brake?
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If you are giving just the two choices above, I'd have to say neither.
 
Aluisious

Aluisious

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mototireguy said:
+1 not a bad idea.

Looking at the vid again it looks like the rider gets two shots with his elbow at the front brake and makes contact on the second try.
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You think he did it intentionally? The only reasonable thing to do with someone who really did something like that would be to put them in prison. Basically the level of whipping out a knife in a boxing match.
 
flying_hun

flying_hun

Adverse Selection
If someone is crowding you, you might well be inclined to stick out an elbow to buffer contact without any intent to hit a brake lever. Saying that the action is evidence of intent is based on the assumption that hitting the brake lever is the only reason why someone in that position would stick out his elbow. I don't think that assumption always holds.
 
Brown81

Brown81

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They should let them use riding crops. Then, they could beat each other off with them, like in the movie Seabiscuit.



Wait, "beat each other off...."???

"Fend" each other off?



Well, maybe just hitting there brake lever would be easiest.
 
JakesKTM

JakesKTM

Well-known member
racing incident which could have been avoided with a protective bar over the brake. I'm surprised this isn't a safety regulation considering the amount of front brake high speed endos that have occurred from race contact.
 
Wormwood

Wormwood

Is right behind you
Intentional?? WTF?

Lets get in his head "if I bump this guys front brake at 160 mph I can take him out and pick up a place w/o worrying about the consequence of the splatter factor?"

Please. He dropped as was needed to get a good line, likely expecting other riders to do the same. Incidental contact, shit happens.

Speed is going for debate and ratings improvement.

+1 on the brake cover unless somone can elaborate on any safety concerns with said equipment.
 
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