Crashing so much we need "Crash Analysis" forum?!

joe

joe

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Are we seriously crashing so much that this forum is a neccesity? Jesus, I know there's a lot of crashes out there, but why not just get to the root of the issue and have a "DMV Motorcycle requirement forum", or a "Age/Experience limit on 600cc + Bikes" forum, or a "Restrictor plate" forum, or...

I know sometimes it's impossible to avoid crashes, and that stucks, but how about as a community we just try to ride safely enough that we heavily decreases the likelyhood of crashing? After all, crashing is definitely one of those things you can do without, whehter you're learning from them or not.
 
squid vicious

squid vicious

nomnomnomnom
because it does happen no matter how safe we ride or how much we wish it didn't. ignoring it will only make the problem worse.

yes, crashes are often enough and severe enough to warrent a place to discuss and learn.

ride safe and may you never have anything to contribute (that's a well-wish, btw)
 
greggargubby

greggargubby

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joe said:
Are we seriously crashing so much that this forum is a neccesity? Jesus, I know there's a lot of crashes out there, but why not just get to the root of the issue and have a "DMV Motorcycle requirement forum", or a "Age/Experience limit on 600cc + Bikes" forum, or a "Restrictor plate" forum, or...

I know sometimes it's impossible to avoid crashes, and that stucks, but how about as a community we just try to ride safely enough that we heavily decreases the likelyhood of crashing? After all, crashing is definitely one of those things you can do without, whehter you're learning from them or not.
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all good points. i think it would be easy for all accidents to be lumped into this category or that category, this discussion or that discussion, this forum or that forum, etc. so maybe the idea of a crash analysis forum isn't all that great.

but, at the same time, i think a source of good info without all the pretense and, to be quite frank with you, drama and anger that accompany many BARF threads about accidents, is a good thing.

speaking as a lowly barf noob, the amount of attitude thrown at downed riders makes it nearly impossible to seek help in understanding what went wrong if you're not an already accepted pillar of the barf community. so this forum, at least for me, and i hope for others, is a welcome change.
 
280SQUAGGLER

280SQUAGGLER

Im cool with my skates
I think its useless thread .... everyone knows if you crash blame it on the cold tires(my personal favorite), loose gravel, sun in your eyes
i think if riders would get the cold tire deal out of the equation, then they would actually figure out why they crashed
 
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fubar929

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joe said:
I know sometimes it's impossible to avoid crashes, and that stucks, but how about as a community we just try to ride safely enough that we heavily decreases the likelyhood of crashing? After all, crashing is definitely one of those things you can do without, whehter you're learning from them or not.
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The problem is that motorcycle riding is often unintuitive. Crashes and close calls are the result. Given that none of us knows everything about riding, why not try to learn from the mistakes that other people make? I know, from first-hand experience, that crashing sucks and if I can learn something from somebody else's crash rather than having to smack my own head on the pavement, I'm all for it! Aren't you?
 
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mattman

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I know sometimes it's impossible to avoid crashes, and that stucks, but how about as a community we just try to ride safely enough that we heavily decreases the likelyhood of crashing?
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Sounds like a good reason to create a forum for analysis, maybe one should be created for rant analysis.
 
joe

joe

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again, the motorcycle community needs an adjustment. Give me all the negative mojo you want, but if you're crashing, STOP. Learn from it, use the riding technique forum we have in place, but lets not have more "I crashed on my buddies 1000 because it was cold out and someone didn't tighten my oil filter..." threads... Jesus, there need to be checks and balances in place to help our community AVOID having riders who're crash prone in the first place, yet I don't see any talk about that on barf.

For instance, ever notice all the "stolen from ______ shop" plates on brand new bikes being ridden by teenage boys? Any ethical reason to sell a 150hp bike to a kid at 20+ % financing, that he'll probably crash within a year? No. Lets make a forum for that, push that to the legislators and we can all learn from that.

Call it a rant all you like, but preventitive measures are worth their weight in gold and more often than not, I'll reiterate, the correct lessons to be learned from crashes are shrouded in "Barf Speak" (shit talking).
 
squid vicious

squid vicious

nomnomnomnom
thanks for dropping by, your opinion is dually noted. as little success we'll have convincing you that this is a valuable contribution to barf is the same level of success you'll have voicing the opposite. ride safe and we'll see you on the road. in the mean time, respect what we're doing and contribute accordingly, or don't. please.
 
Dove

Dove

productively obsessed
squid vicious said:
thanks for dropping by, your opinion is dually noted. as little success we'll have convincing you that this is a valuable contribution to barf is the same level of success you'll have voicing the opposite. ride safe and we'll see you on the road. in the mean time, respect what we're doing and contribute accordingly, or don't. please.
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The man has spoken. :laughing
 
joe

joe

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it's funny you say that... I actually don't ride on the road any more because of the lack of consideration and inconsistancy local riders demonstrate. The bay area riders crash too much!!

Bite myself in the ass there, didn't I? :laughing
 
07chuck

07chuck

POOP!!!
joe said:
it's funny you say that... I actually don't ride on the road any more because of the lack of consideration and inconsistancy local riders demonstrate. The bay area riders crash too much!!

Bite myself in the ass there, didn't I? :laughing
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Like other riders are the real problem... Try cagers...


Kthxbye




:laughing
 
squid vicious

squid vicious

nomnomnomnom
joe said:
it's funny you say that... I actually don't ride on the road any more because of the lack of consideration and inconsistancy local riders demonstrate. The bay area riders crash too much!!

Bite myself in the ass there, didn't I? :laughing
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i honestly can't blame anyone for that, i've given up 9/84/etc for that very reason. fortunately winter is here and the riding season can begin!

soon as i heal from my crash that is :blush
 
machete

machete

black out
all i got a problem with, is that they stuck it above "moto photos" and now I have to scroll down that much further....after the freaking "training" forum was put into place too. :x

squid, quit crashing...simple...oh ,yeah, get off the bike more, when you're leaning, you dope! that might help too. :twofinger
 
silverbelt

silverbelt

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280SQUAGGLER said:
...i think if riders would get the cold tire deal out of the equation, then they would actually figure out why they crashed
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Your wrong about that. Aggressive riding on the mountains with cold tires is a recipe for a crash.
 
Mike T

Mike T

Ahahahahahaahahahahahaaha
joe said:
it's funny you say that... I actually don't ride on the road any more because of the lack of consideration and inconsistancy local riders demonstrate. The bay area riders crash too much!!

Bite myself in the ass there, didn't I? :laughing
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so uh...you crashed sir?

*in a therapist's voice* now tell us..did you learn anything? if you do...please share...

:twofinger

and crashes can happen to anyone...look at motogp and pedrosa :teeth :twofinger
 
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