Aprilia Dosoduro - next bike?

chai rome

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I'm thinking about thinning the street bike herd down to two: one sportbike and a DD750. I think they'll be different enough to compliment each other.

Main question is what years should i focus on and why? (most likely buying used unless there are major discounts on new)
I've already done research on the bike and comparisons but I would still appreciate input on its power, reliability, fun-factor, handling, braking, issues, or why I should get a Ducati HM (or other) instead.
 

nine_inch_rear

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This link might help out a bit. I have the hyper 1100S. Rock solid performer. Gas range sucks because of the small tank, but CA cycleworks makes a larger one. I would find a good used S version because of the awesome brakes and adj suspension. Lots of after market goodies available. Open dry clutch and Termis add character. Seat is fairly comfy for what it is. I added 2 inch rock risers to the handle bars and a Fabri windscreen. Removed two pressure plate springs for easier clutch pull. Easy to read display. Plenty of Hp for every day needs. Cant comment on the Ape, but resale on the Duc should be easier if you dont care for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyIhqt7B3Zs
 
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imortlfool

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I had a 2011 Dorso 750.

Sooooo much fun to ride. Comfy and sporty. Stock suspension was exactly correct for me, inspired tons of confidence. Power delivery and fueling was perfect. Sounds fantastic without being too loud. Got compliments wherever it went.

Tank range is hilarious, low fuel light goes on at 90 miles. No place for luggage, I did one overnight on it with a giant loop great basin bag mediocrely tied on the back. Has passenger pegs but that's also a joke.

If you want a bike for day-long fun rides, buy immediately. If I had the garage space I'd still own it but *sniff*
 

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chai rome

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Nine inch rear, the link was cool but the copmparison used the DD1200 which i've pretty much ruled out.
I actually always liked the HM1100 but some sort of brand loyalty is holding me back the most and never wanted to be the guy with a Ducati! But it looks really good, weighs less, and from what i hear the power would suit me. Plus i love the air-cooled engine and a dry clutch would be cool. What are some common issues i might run into with the HM1100 and are there years to avoid?

Imortfool, how long did you own it and had it given you any issues?
I understand this wouldn't be a practical bike but it's a fun bike for short hops through traffic and some carving that i'm looking for.

Is the DD more a hooligan machine than the HM? I know it's shorter on power, but doesn't it have more suspension travel and a closer to supermoto feel? Will it easily wheelie on power alone in 1st and 2nd?
 
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ReUnited

Trackday is NOT a race!
I'm thinking about thinning the street bike herd down to two: one sportbike and a DD750. I think they'll be different enough to compliment each other.

Main question is what years should i focus on and why? (most likely buying used unless there are major discounts on new)
I've already done research on the bike and comparisons but I would still appreciate input on its power, reliability, fun-factor, handling, braking, issues, or why I should get a Ducati HM (or other) instead.

Ton of fun.
I will sell you mine for $8k.
Clean 2014 with ~3600 miles (looks like this one http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/mcy/5046153815.html) but mine has over $3k of goodies. Reason for sale is to quit riding streets and do more track. Title in hand.
PM if interested.
 

nine_inch_rear

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Nine inch rear, the link was cool but the copmparison used the DD1200 which i've pretty much ruled out.
I actually always liked the HM1100 but some sort of brand loyalty is holding me back the most and never wanted to be the guy with a Ducati! But it looks really good, weighs less, and from what i hear the power would suit me. Plus i love the air-cooled engine and a dry clutch would be cool. What are some common issues i might run into with the HM1100 and are there years to avoid?

Imortfool, how long did you own it and had it given you any issues?
I understand this wouldn't be a practical bike but it's a fun bike for short hops through traffic and some carving that i'm looking for.

Is the DD more a hooligan machine than the HM? I know it's shorter on power, but doesn't it have more suspension travel and a closer to supermoto feel? Will it easily wheelie on power alone in 1st and 2nd?
The first gen 1100 hypers were the same, with the exception of the S. Nothing really stands out as problematic. 07 had a service bulletin about the battery squirming around on the fuel tank causing a hole. The fix was to add velcro tape to get up off the tank. They had a fuel tank recall, but that was part of a litigation suit, and Ducati just extended the warranty of putting the same type of tank back on. If I was in the market for one, make sure you test ride it. The mapping of Ducs (and alot of FI bikes for that matter) can have a snatchy throttle response. It makes around town riding a chore. Mine came mapped with the termis and DP ECU, so its a good match for smooth response. Most big twins, L-twins can be jerky at lower rpms. 4k and above the Duc really starts to breathe and stretch its legs. The newer generation Hypers are nice, but I cant get used to the riding position since your up and over the bars more. The first gen just fits me better, however it's less supermoto-ish than newer ones.
 
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chai rome

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Great, thank you. If properly maintained, could the 1100 motor last long? I hear most maintenance on it is do-it-yourself, as it's aircooled, right?
Should i find one that hasn't been re-mapped, how much can i expect to spend to get it smooth?
 

chai rome

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Re-United, i'll keep that in mind. Maybe you can pm me a list of the mods it has and general history.
 

nine_inch_rear

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Great, thank you. If properly maintained, could the 1100 motor last long? I hear most maintenance on it is do-it-yourself, as it's aircooled, right?
Should i find one that hasn't been re-mapped, how much can i expect to spend to get it smooth?
Yes, its air cooled. Maintenance is easier on the 2v engine for valve adjustment. Take a look at the Desmo valve system on youtube. There are also good write ups/videos on valve adjustment if you decide to do it yourself. Cam belts get done every 2 years, 3 years at the most. Last time I had a Duc remapped it was about 300$ for a dyno tune. Again, yours may or may not need one. I would have to assume the Aprilia is less maintenance since theres no belts, nor doesnt have the same valve train. Then again, nothing sounds like Duc:teeth
 

stan23

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I looked at both and decided on the HYM1100 for daily fun. I'm a big fan of Aprilia, but the build quality is not the greatest and the suspension lacks full adjustability. Also the resale on the DD is really bad. The guy I was going to buy from had a '14 with 1000 miles and couldn't give it away for 6K.

The grunt of the 1100 motor is incredible and as soon as I rode the bike, I knew it was something special.
 

chai rome

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Yeah, that's overall what i've gathered. I'm going to call my insurance to see what the difference might be.
But again, will a HM engine last with proper maintenance-
 

stan23

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If you're looking for a first gen hyper, get an EVO, or EVO SP. There are a lot of little improvements, such as less weight, different forks, different ECU, new cylinder head, more power, 7500 mile valve checks, etc..
 

auditude

Wut, bodda you?
I was in a similar predicament earlier this year; was trying to decide between a KTM, Hyper and a Dorso. I was also secretly lusting after a GS but was quickly overwhelmed by the price of admission as well as overall "heft" of the bike.

Tried to do an apples-apples comparo between them and couldn't find a KTM within my price range. Looked hard at 1100 and the DD1200 and ended up with a hyper.

Not ever owning a Duc in my life and having owned two Apes, I had, in a way, been swayed heavily towards the makings of a Piaggio trifecta.

Additionally, I tend to do most, if not all, of the wrenching on my motos. Being the shadetree mechanic, the odds were looking, again, towards the DD1200. Reliability, maintenance and valve adj intervals also seemed to favor the DD; however, the DD outweighed the hyper significantly and seemed to manifest it's weight in some of the shootouts. Now, I don't put tons of faith in bike shootouts but it was mentioned several times as well as in a few forums. I didn't want a heavier bike than what I was already riding and the whole point of a sumo is their agility and flickability. The DD1200 seemed to take a backseat to the hyper in those terms but the DD750 may have been a better comparison.

So, "Why?" you may ask, did I end up with the Duc? It was more an emotional choice vs. sensibility. I have this mantra of trying to live life without regrets and that any experience can be a valuable learning experience if you take the time to learn from it. I wanted to own a Ducati - this was my opportunity and the cost of admission wasn't too steep.

I knew this bike's history from dealer down to each service interval, oil wt., dyno tune; every nook and cranny based off of my great relationship with the mechanics and service records. I also established a tight friendship with the original owner before I ended up buying.

The styling (SSA sexiness), forged marchesinis (1100s model), ohlins and additional aftermarket goodies also helped with the decision.

Your reasons for looking at these "types" of bikes will lead you to one or the other. I don't think you can go wrong; the 1100 is a tried-and-true lump of a stump-pulling motor which has been used in several models whereas the DD is the "new(er) kid" on the block.

Parts are relatively easy to source for either but I believe the hyper will have more donor bikes or 2nd hand items available due to the sheer number of units sold compared to the DD.

Insurance was about the same; not a lot of luggage/touring options. Anything with the ducati name was easily 2-3 x's more in terms of swag/gear. I lucked out as the original owner already had a givi topcase; anything more and I'd need to upgrade to a CA Cycleworks tank to make true use of the additional storage.

At the time, all I could find were a few soft saddle options for the Ape and I ultimately wanted something with more "fixed" and lockable storage hence the early thoughts of the GS. In terms of locking luggage options, the Duc won again.

Mileage was rather abysmal for "touring" purposes but falls just about right for fun and twisty afternoon trips before a stretch is needed. Funny, the tank is much smaller than the Gen II Tuono I was coming from, yet the air-cooled hyper gets better mpg.

I also had the fortune of meeting owner Bobby Crooks* @ Dubbleju in SF. I strolled in to his shop one day after running across their ad for a Tiger 1050 with full luggage. It was gorgeous. It had impeccable service records and seemed to be exactly what I was looking for. A capable twisty machine with touring lineage. Bobby turned on the light for me and actually talked me out of buying it. He heard what my intentions and shortlist of "wants" for my moto were and gave the nod to the hyper only after knowing what I wanted.

He also told me I could rent a "touring" bike from him anytime I needed to for those "rare" long(er) trips. That was the clincher.

I've owned my 2009 1100s for 4 mos. now with nary a regret...well, I'm lying; I really wish I had more time to ride her. I enjoy the hyper that much, but, then again, I'm a rider at heart. I had just as much fun on my 1986 Rebel 250 as I do on my Duc.

I hope this wasn't too long-winded and assists with some insight regarding your purchase.

It's the only bike I own and I tend to own them for a long time. One last plus; my wife enjoys riding pillion on the Duc more than my past bikes. She says the seat is comfy as is the riding position :thumbup!

*I was referred to Bobby by Gwynne (ThumperX). Bobby and I talked for over 2 hours about motos, life and family. Genuinely nice guy with an awesome collection of motos. If you're ever in SF, you owe it to yourself to check them out!
 
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stan23

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Interesting write-up. I have owned an R1200GS, and it is superior to the Hyper in every way. That bike was beyond awesome. The people that don't own them will never realize how fast you can go and how much you can get away with those things.
 

chai rome

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Auditude, i appreciate your time.
Everything you wrote was helpful, except i'm not ever interested in doing long touring rides or hauling luggage, so it can go either way between the two in that aspect.

My only concern about range is if zombies take over or the like!

How has your experience been wrenching on the HM, thus far?

KTM just doesn't do it for me, though i read almost nothing but good things about the bigger Dukes here on barf.
 

DIY

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There's lots of Hypers out there. There'll be more. Unless, of course, you want me to nudge you over the cliff.
 
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