Anyone else excited about MotoE?

afm199

afm199

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R3DS!X said:
If you want anything to progress it's going to have to start somewhere.

Imagine if you were to criticize Rossi in his first 125cc year the same way?
"well he's not doing that well, not even getting on podium, might as well stop watching him."

Ebikes have a lot of potential I don't think you're seeing. sure they are currently held back by current battery technology but to think that will remain the same forever is a baffling thought process. It will change as demand increases.
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I don't want E racing to progress. Who does? I like the current form fine.

The comp to Rossi wouldn't make sense unless you said "Special rules were implemented for Rossi, allowing him to only do 1/3 the laps of the others."

I hope, very much, that battery progress occurs. I would remind you that batteries have been around a very long time, and have been researched a very long time, and what we have now is quite advanced. You can't predict future progress from imagination. It's quite possible that batteries have progressed to the 85% on the energy density vector.

Believing that tech is going to save the world is delusional.
 
afm199

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Map8 said:
I've seen the ALTA bikes race Supermoto and Flat Track. They make a sound like a turbine. I've also been attended the Tour of California several times at different locations around Sacramento and didn't notice any comparison in sound between the bicycle races and electric motorcycles.
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Have you heard any E bikes on asphalt? I have, and have raced them there. I have also raced bicycles on asphalt, and the sound is the same.
 
Map8

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afm199 said:
Have you heard any E bikes on asphalt? I have, and have raced them there. I have also raced bicycles on asphalt, and the sound is the same.
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What kind surface do you think Supermoto races and the Tour of California take place on? You're just being contrarian.
 
stangmx13

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I think its funny when detractors of 'X' tell everyone that no one is going to like 'X' either - somehow their opinion is soo right that everyone else must agree. :laughing

theres plenty of data showing that E-racing is enjoyed and attended. we'll even have MotoE viewership data soon. if the numbers are higher than expected, Dorna is going to tell everyone. if the numbers aren't extravagant, it'll take some GoogleFu - but we'll still know.
 
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afm199

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Map8 said:
What kind surface do you think Supermoto races and the Tour of California take place on? You're just being contrarian.
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Dunno, mostly dirt and jumps for the Supermoto?

If you think that anyone is being contrarian because they dare to disagree with you, you're the problem, not me.
 
afm199

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stangmx13 said:
I think its funny when detractors of 'X' tell everyone that no one else is going to like 'X' either - somehow their opinion is soo right that everyone else must agree. :laughing

theres plenty of data showing that E-racing is enjoyed and attended. we'll even have MotoE viewership data soon. if the numbers are higher than expected, Dorna is going to tell everyone. if the numbers aren't extravagant, it'll take some GoogleFu - but we'll still know.
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Got any of that data?

PS: I'm not a detractor. It just bores me and I say so. I certainly don't start threads with "E bikes suck."

This is a thread that asked about whether anyone is excited about E bike races. I responded. Just like you. Get off your high horse.
 
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stangmx13

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afm199 said:
Got any of that data?

PS: I'm not a detractor. It just bores me and I say so. I certainly don't start threads with "E bikes suck."

This is a thread that asked about whether anyone is excited about E bike races. I responded. Just like you. Get off your high horse.
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https://lmgtfy.com/?q=formula+e+attendance&s=d&t=w

first result
Not only has Formula E attracted those big-name manufacturers, the series more than doubled its attendance to 476,000 in season four, and increased its television viewership from 223 million to 330 million, according to the filing.
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thats what detractor means.
 
Map8

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afm199 said:
Dunno, mostly dirt and jumps for the Supermoto?

If you think that anyone is being contrarian because they dare to disagree with you, you're the problem, not me.
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Supermoto is mostly pavement, usually 70-80% of the track. I've also watched one of the e-bike races they had a Laguna during one of the MotoGP weekends. With experience of watching/hearing electric race bikes in road racing, supermoto and flat track and having watched some of the best cyclists in the world in a peloton from less than five feet away and having ridden in large groups of cyclists (not racing), I have a very different opinion. We'll have to agree to disagree on this. Sorry if I offended you.
 
stangmx13

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afm199 said:
O my God. That's horrible. Two detractors. Why can't people just get along?:rolleyes
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oh my god, your surrounded by people that like something that u dont like. why cant you stop cracking jokes about how bad MotoE is and will continue to be? we like it. stop raining on our parade.

serious talk now. it seems like you are actively trying to decrease my enjoyment of MotoE. if u didnt intend that, cool. but its hard to not think that from your posts.
 
Holeshot

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stangmx13 said:
I think its funny when detractors of 'X' tell everyone that no one is going to like 'X' either - somehow their opinion is soo right that everyone else must agree. :laughing
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The inverse holds true as well. "Everyone" won't like it, neither. So's life. FWIW, my comments refer to moto racing only, above. Not car racing.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/3/1...ic-racing-series-season-4-revenue-sponsorship

The electric racing series — which is overseen by the same governing body as Formula One — is currently in the middle of its fifth season. There are a number of likely reasons why it has carved out a niche in the crowded world of motorsports, even though some critics estimated it would never make it this far when it launched in 2014. The series has embraced its differences, like operating on temporary street circuits built in or near the center of major cities.
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It's funny, this point is likely the best case for live events; no noise/ less noise means they can be closer to large populations...like city Crits, etc. On a motorcycle, we run into safety problems in city environments, so I don't see this an option for us (yet).

One other element I hadn't considered for TV viewers is the noise level not needing to be what it is in person. That may be another saving grace. This would be the same for motorcycle racing.

OTOH, the difficulty they'll have is making sure it monetizes at some point soon AND converting existing fans of ICE racing over to EV racing. That's their toughest sale...and in a time when most racing series are struggling to find fans/ loyalists.
 
afm199

afm199

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stangmx13 said:
oh my god, your surrounded by people that like something that u dont like. why cant you stop cracking jokes about how bad MotoE is and will continue to be? we like it. stop raining on our parade.

serious talk now. it seems like you are actively trying to decrease my enjoyment of MotoE. if u didnt intend that, cool. but its hard to not think that from your posts.
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Surrounded? :rofl How bad it is? I point out that the bikes are big fat pigs that only go six laps and you get offended.

I'm not interested enough in your life to care whether you enjoy or don't enjoy MotoE. Stop projecting. (That means using others as a movie screen for your feelings rather than owning them.)
 
R3DS!X

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afm199 said:
I don't want E racing to progress. Who does? I like the current form fine.
Lots of folks do. Do you think people don't want bicycle racing to advance? sailboat racing? If it's something that can be raced I'm all for it. I remember when AMA had the XR1200 class. They were slower than the superbikes but I still wanted the series to be popular because then harley might actually make more competitive bikes.

The comp to Rossi wouldn't make sense unless you said "Special rules were implemented for Rossi, allowing him to only do 1/3 the laps of the others."
That doesn't make sense.

Believing that tech is going to save the world is delusional.
No one ever said it was gonna save the world. It's just the future.
In about 20-40 year EV's will be the norm. You don't have to embrace the future but I think you're foolish not to.
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You're sounding like an old man. You didn't always.
 
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