AFM Meeting minutes? Where and When?

synfinatic

Wannabe Fast Guy
If emailing the minutes is OK, why not just send it out to the same AFM mailing list where other announcements goes to? Why re-invent the wheel?
 
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scotinexcile

Well-known member
As an FYI, I'm happy to e-mail the minutes to anyone who wants them, once they're approved by the Board. Considering that, since I've been Secretary, the average views of the minutes posted on the old forum were about 12, with a high once of 27, and I know that at least 1 view is from me checking to make sure it doesn't look wrong, it's not that difficult to send to anyone who wants to see.
I'd rather send a few e-mails than deal with google docs, which just makes me want to pull my hair out... :laughing
Alan, shoot me an e-mail with the months you're interested in, and I'm happy to send them to you! :) :thumbup

email sent :thumbup
 

RACER774

Well-known member
Oh hell, not this bs again... :rolleyes

Stop with the freakin secrecy already, there is no 'effin liability for the AFM, this is so bloody ridiculous and has been for too many years! There are no minutes to approve if the damn meeting is broadcast. Nobody bothers to sue an entity with practically nothing in the damn bank account, get over yourselves and quit acting like a bunch of 'effin lawyers trying to protect a multi-billion dollar corporation! Seriously, this crap is so absurd. Stick some flippin' GoPro's on tripods and let the club members know wtf is going on, enough with the lame excuses that "if you really cared, you would come to the meeting!" :rolleyes That's insulting to all the members who are restricted by geography and work schedules, join the new millennium and put technology to use so that the AFM membership knows what's going on with their club.

Really, I can't believe we're in 2014 and dealing with this nonsense and communications blockade. JFC, make the AFM board meetings available to members, you'll get a whole lot more people who will get involved and help out with the running of the club if they actually know wtf the AFM needs!
I agree 100%
 

Holeshot

Super Moderator
Staff member
It wasn't about secrecy, it's about having a reliable Internet connection and someone to run it consistently. Audio quality blew when we did do it and we didn't have a robust enough connection from Ricky's. sometimes ideas are great on paper, and just shitty in execution...don't I know that well.
 

synfinatic

Wannabe Fast Guy
I'll admit that the audio quality wasn't great. Frankly it was barely passible most of the time and occasionally worthless. But still, it was a great option for members like me who wanted to know what was going on first hand without having to drive 880 in traffic.

That said, a simple solution is to not try to stream it, but do it on tape delay. That way internet bandwidth isn't an issue. Then upload it to Youtube (marked unlisted, so you need the URL to watch) and send it out that weekend.

Also, the BoD could *dramatically* improve the audio quality by investing in additional microphones and a cheap USB mixer. There are too many people, the room too big and too much background noise to get by on a single mic. I bet if you had 3 mics for the horseshoe table the BoD sits at and a roaming mic to pick up questions from the audience you'd be good. There's gotta be a ton of musicians/audio techs in the AFM/BARF who can help source the necessary equipment show someone on the BoD how to set it up.

If nobody on the BoD feels technical enough to do the post processing & upload to Youtube, then have someone mail me the SD cards the next morning. I'll do the work and post them for the club.
 

afmotorsports

Well-known member
It wasn't about secrecy, it's about having a reliable Internet connection and someone to run it consistently. Audio quality blew when we did do it and we didn't have a robust enough connection from Ricky's. sometimes ideas are great on paper, and just shitty in execution...don't I know that well.

I'm going to call bullshit on that, Berto. How come the FC can call into AFM board meetings on Skype and you even have (or had?) an AFM board member join the meeting from the fricken Netherlands??? We can have the AFM races streamed online with cameras set up all over Thunderhill but it's impossible to do that with the meeting?? Move the fricken location of the meeting if wifi is the problem. C'mon, these silly excuses need to stop, it's a crazy vicious cycle with the AFM board whining that nobody steps up to help but the vast majority of the membership has no fricken clue what you guys need help with. Did you get anybody to help you out with the alumni thing in May?? Who even knows about it other than the board??? Help me help you!! :twofinger :teeth
 

RACER774

Well-known member
How about having AFM board meetings on saturday after the races. I know we have more meetings than there are races but you would have a lot in attendance. It would also help with the transparency issue.
 
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Holeshot

Super Moderator
Staff member
Mike, there's just no time to do that really, and get anything done. Plus, I want to get ready for the race on Saturday…and we're a club of racers ran by racers, so that's tough. It's like asking to have a pilot staff meeting on the SF/ LA flight and expecting every pilot to be there!

Alex, not that I don't think it would be good, but someone else needs to do it. Any no, we're not uploading it to youtube with a link…that's not a secure channel. Seriously you guys, if you want to go, send an emissary each time until it's figured out how you can get what you need/ want. In the mean time, can each one of you get a few members to join up and race with us? That seems to be a larger issue than our meetings being on TV...
 

synfinatic

Wannabe Fast Guy
What was the security of the old broadcast method? What level of security do we need to provide to make this available to the membership?

Basically, instead of telling me "no, you can't do that", tell me what we need to do to make this happen.
 
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Holeshot

Super Moderator
Staff member
I think we go with an blast after every meeting…that seems a good format to start with.
 
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