9/11 Papers

JesasaurusRex

JesasaurusRex

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If i understand correctly
The story goes, some hackers breached a lawfirm and stolen files related to litigation around the 9/11 attacks.

Can read full article here

This hacker/s are threatening releasing these documents if not paid .. who knows.

Looks like they've started to release documents, haven't dug too deep into this but afaik nothing ground breaking.

My take is it's more than likely just a ploy to make some money.

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msethhunter

msethhunter

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Probably a smear campaign about how we knew it was coming, and did nothing.

That people think we brought down the WTC on purpose, with explosives is along the same lines as me spraying the country down with chemicals at work.
 
mean dad

mean dad

Well-known member
Ain't no fuckin way the United States government would ever conduct a false flag operation to meet political goals.
No fuckin way.
 
2strokeYardSale

2strokeYardSale

Moab on my mind
mean dad said:
Ain't no fuckin way the United States government would ever conduct a false flag operation to meet political goals.
No fuckin way.
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That's tinfoil hat crazy talk.

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J

Junkie

gone for now
It wouldn't surprise me at all if they knew it was going to happen.

I think that the planes brought the towers down, though.
 
Yakoo752

Yakoo752

USN
I was watching a documentary the other day on the Navy and Nuclear testing and some elderly retired sailors were talking about how they were instructed to go out on the stern during a nuclear blast test. They were being used to determine side effects from distance, unknownst to them.

They either stood or kneeled on the deck and covered their eyes with their hands or forearms. The ones that stood and covered with their hands said once the blast occurred it was so bright they could see the actual bones in their hands... I assume it was due to radiation.

I’ll see if I can dig it up.

Not saying false flag but America has done some fucked up shit before. Testing nuclear fallout on your own sailors is pretty fucked.
 
Johndicezx9

Johndicezx9

Rolls with it...
No denying the government was beginning to understand that something was coming (here in Monterey the Defense Language Institute locked up with high security procedures at the beginning of August 2001), but they didn't piece it together in time.

Everything that followed after the following years was pure manipulation.
 
easter bunny

easter bunny

Amateur Hour
You have to admit that as tinfoil hat as it might sound, a false flag operation is a totally plausible scenario. The Patriot Act, NSA data collection, establishment of Homeland Security, etc all resulted from it. It moved us a lot closer to something like China or Russia where the population is strictly controlled.
 
redruM

redruM

Peripheral Visionary
easter bunny said:
You have to admit that as tinfoil hat as it might sound, a false flag operation is a totally plausible scenario. The Patriot Act, NSA data collection, establishment of Homeland Security, etc all resulted from it. It moved us a lot closer to something like China or Russia where the population is strictly controlled.
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The good thing is that tons of people have come on board (the USS Freethinker) over the years who, previously, would never consider anything that challenged popular belief or opinion - but who today are now highly skeptical of 9/11 official narrative. You know... because it makes no fucking sense whatsoever.

Still, there are way too many brainwashed Americans who are unable or unwilling to see beyond the red, white and blue dogma that has been shoved up their asses since elementary school. They think questioning history and/or authority is somehow unAmerican, when in fact the opposite is true.

Anyone courageous enough to open their fucking eyes and look will find that all governments are compromised, corrupt and controlled by a ruling class whose power reaches back through time immemorial and is now global in scope.
 
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CoorsLight

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Whatever the motivations or outcomes, the main doubt in my mind is free fall. Never been satisfactorily explained.
 
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CoorsLight

Well-known member
Mike95060 said:
Im sure this has to be bogus and wont satisfy anyone but anyway...


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I was referring to tower 7. But since you brought it up, NIST model made some dubious assumptions. More egregious was the Purdue model for the pentagon that required the engines to be removed and the wings to spontaneously fold back before impact.

But again, I’m talking about tower 7 that fell with free fall acceleration. There has been no explanation to my knowledge for all the structural support to be instantly removed from that tower resulting is that acceleration. If you’ve got anything that addresses that, I’d be interested.
 
Bowling4Bikes

Bowling4Bikes

Steee-riiike!
Mike95060 said:
Im sure this has to be bogus and wont satisfy ]
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that's how the building could collapse. I agree.

it's a real problem we all face. what is the truth? what is the consensus truth?

fwiw it sounds like a decent idea to me, however there is other footage that shows more to the story. like, if it only affected the upper floors to collapse the whole thing, why were the bottom stories blown out? and the cars on the streets that were incinerated well before the collapse of any of the buildings?

let's keep learning.
 
Mike95060

Mike95060

Work In Progress
CoorsLight said:
I was referring to tower 7. But since you brought it up, NIST model made some dubious assumptions. More egregious was the Purdue model for the pentagon that required the engines to be removed and the wings to spontaneously fold back before impact.

But again, I’m talking about tower 7 that fell with free fall acceleration. There has been no explanation to my knowledge for all the structural support to be instantly removed from that tower resulting is that acceleration. If you’ve got anything that addresses that, I’d be interested.
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Even though it is well over my head, I too would like to know more than "computer models said so" as well. I know the devil is in the details and we don't really get into that so much on a youtube video.

I think this video makes some good points about free fall not happening in the twin tower collapse. I believe the animation they show at about the 6 minute mark is the correct mechanisim by which the towers fell.


youtu.be/nN3qUXJp7l0

Building 7 was a sticking point for me too. I have heard the audio of an official saying "we decided to pull it." And the famous video we all saw of building 7 collapsing when it appeared to be in realatvely undamaged condition and that really didnt seem right to me. IIRC, the official explanation for all that was that "pull it" meant pull everyone out because they knew collapse was imminent and what we could not see of building 7 was how badly damaged it was from falling debris. According to that scenario, what we all saw collapse was not much more that the facade of building 7 that looked much less damaged than it was.

Now here is where I had to make a choice in my own head. Choice one is a massive conspiracy that has been executed perfectly for about two decades now or, airplanes flew into buildings and then those buildings eventually fell down and the shit tons of mass that came crashing to the ground destroyed a lot of other things too.

In my brain, occam's razor wins out and its planes crashing into buildngs and not a grand conspiracy.
 
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