2013 Triumph Daytona won't start

[Jackson]

Hi,

I just bought a 2013 triumph daytona with 0 miles, but it looks like the immobiliser doesn't recognize the key? The battery was dead, and after charging it the bell icon in the dash stays lit, and from my searching that looks like the immobiliser... anyone know a reset procedure to get it to recognize the keys again?

I've got an appointment at cal moto on thursday, but it would be nice to enjoy some of this dry weather before then.

And just to be sure I tried all the usual suspects, main fuse, all the other fuses, battery voltage is good as well.

 

[shouldnthave]

If it truly is the immobilizer not recognizing the key, the dealer is the only place to get it reprogrammed. Since it only has 0 miles on it, is it still under warranty?

 

[Jackson]

It looks like I have 6 months of warranty, and yeah it looks like the dealership is the only way...

 

[ST Guy]

Why can't manufacturers leave things well enough alone??!! At the very least, design the fancy electronics so you can fix/reprogram yourself with the right info. Battery dies and you can't ride the bike until you haul it down to the dealer?? WTF?

 

[channelcat]

Why can't manufacturers leave things well enough alone??!! At the very least, design the fancy electronics so you can fix/reprogram yourself with the right info. Battery dies and you can't ride the bike until you haul it down to the dealer?? WTF?

Bastards. All of 'em.

 

[Paulo666]

Jackson if the immobilizer light is constant the bike will never start. Only Triumph can help you, you will have to show proof of ownership.There's no way around it.

1. Both keys cannot be together ok or bike will not start. The other key transponder will confuse the ecu. Hide the other key in a safe place.
2. Was the bike bought from a auction? Maybe they gave you the wrong keys???
3. The keys come cut to the ignition from the factory but they do not come coded to the bike. The dealer must do that.

 

[Jackson]

Jackson if the immobilizer light is constant the bike will never start. Only Triumph can help you, you will have to show proof of ownership.There's no way around it.

1. Both keys cannot be together ok or bike will not start. The other key transponder will confuse the ecu. Hide the other key in a safe place.
2. Was the bike bought from a auction? Maybe they gave you the wrong keys???
3. The keys come cut to the ignition from the factory but they do not come coded to the bike. The dealer must do that.

1. Affirmative.
2. It was bought from an auction, but from a dealer (ebay).
3. Ahhh ok. It is with the dealer now. They said that they can't get the immobilizer to work with the current keys, but that they put a 'test' unit in and they were able to start the bike.

 

[Paulo666]

Ok good to know. Maybe the dealership can code your keys again, should be around $50 to $80.

There is a Cal Moto Triumph dealership in Livermore to. There pretty good just in case yours can't help you.

Once your bike is fixed your going to love that bike dude. Such a fun bike to ride.

 

[ST Guy]

I'd find a way to defeat the immobilizer as it seems a pain in the ass.

 

[Jackson]

I'd find a way to defeat the immobilizer as it seems a pain in the ass.

Yeah that's what I'm thinking. Once it's working I'd like to inspect the correct signal the immobilizer is sending, and then recreate that. This system is really good at not being defeated.

 

[Paulo666]

I'd find a way to defeat the immobilizer as it seems a pain in the ass.

Very bad idea imho. I like the immobilizer, it's a great theft deterrent. Since the key is mated to your bike only and will not start without that key whatsoever.
The only way your going to steal this bike is putting it in a van and driving off. Can't be hot wired or taken for a joy ride :afm199

 

[OaklandF4i]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking. Once it's working I'd like to inspect the correct signal the immobilizer is sending, and then recreate that. This system is really good at not being defeated.

I'd keep it. Wish my Street Triple had one. Triumphs are stolen left and right in the bay area. I had an attempt in the middle of the day, plain sight with folks all around it, in front of a yacht club. Just my opinion....

 

[turboLT]

I'd keep it. Wish my Street Triple had one. Triumphs are stolen left and right in the bay area. I had an attempt in the middle of the day, plain sight with folks all around it, in front of a yacht club. Just my opinion....

+1. 3 triumphs stolen that personally affected me in the past 24 months. They're apparently insanely easy to steal so I'm glad triumph is at least making an attempt. Sorry for your troubles though.

 

[ST Guy]

Very bad idea imho. I like the immobilizer, it's a great theft deterrent. Since the key is mated to your bike only and will not start without that key whatsoever.
The only way your going to steal this bike is putting it in a van and driving off. Can't be hot wired or taken for a joy ride :afm199

For the bikes that are lifted and carted off in a truck or van, the immobilizer ain't gonna make a difference. And for those that get ridden away, there are much simpler ways to disable the ignition/electrical system than a high-tech computer controlled system that's a pain in the ass if it goes haywire.

 

[Jackson]

Soooooo I "may" get my bike back at the absolute earliest next Friday, but likely not until later the next week. Note to self (and others) don't buy a triumph.

I spoke with Triumph of North America and he said they get these issues once a month, but they still don't keep this part in supply stateside. So if each person who comes across this experiences this much down time without being able to ride that's roughly a whole year that the cumulative triumph motorcycles spend waiting for parts/being fixed, and one year is the minimum downtime. It's likely higher as this is only accounting for immobilizer issues.