15-Year-Old Motorcyclist Killed -- RIP (17 yo)

[sanjuro]

ADMIN EDIT - UPDATE TO A RIP THREAD
Update 2 - Added the correct age of 17 5.5.20


I was taking stupid risks on my bicycle when I was 15. Whoever let him use a motorcycle is responsible.

https://www.sfgate.com/news/bayarea...orcyclist-Killed-After-Collision-15244534.php

A teenage boy was killed after crashing his motorcycle into a vehicle in American Canyon on Sunday night, according to police.

The collision was first reported at about 9:22 p.m. at the intersection of Flosden Road and Daniel Drive, Sgt. Chris Pacheco said. The motorcyclist, only identified as a 15-year-old boy, was riding a Honda sport bike and traveling southbound on Flosden Road when he collided with an Acura sedan.

 

[bergmen]

I started riding when I was 11, an old hand at 15. Not on a high performance sport bike however.

Dan

 

[sckego]

Do you have another link that indicates he was at fault? The article you posted has doesn't say at all.

I've been on group rides with a 14-year-old on an R6 who handled himself better than many adults I've ridden with. I'd hesitate to make assumptions based only on age and bike type.

 

[Whammy]

What part of a unlicensed underage rider doesn't anyone get?
In the dark too.
Tragic at every angle..... Whammy Shakes head

 

[sckego]

What part of a unlicensed underage rider doesn't anyone get?
In the dark too.
Tragic at every angle..... Whammy Shakes head

Again, 15 is old enough to be a legally permitted motorcycle operator. OK, he shouldn't have been riding at night on a permit, but still no indication that he did not have a permit or that he was "underage" to be riding.

What's with all of the passing assumptions on the deceased?

 

[DataDan]

Deaths among teenage riders were once common in the US, California, and the Bay Area. They are now very rare.

From 1980 to 1989, 75 59 riders under age 18 were killed in the Bay Area. From 2009 to 2018, there were 3, and the most recent was in 2014 (excluding 2019, for which I have no data).

Because it happened last night (Sun, 5/3, 9:00pm), not much news is available yet.

AFAIK, it is still legal to ride a motorcycle in California at age 15.5 with a learner's permit.

RIP, rider.

 

[dravnx]

What makes you think the parents gave the kid permission to ride the bike. Kid has a bike in the garage, has a permit to ride. Parents are out for the evening so kid jumps on the bike for a quick spin. All the stuff I did at 15 that I didn't have permission to do.

 

[bergmen]

AFAIK, it is still legal to ride a motorcycle in California at age 15.5 with a learner's permit.

RIP, rider.

Correct. I was standing in front of the DMV at 8:00 am on the day I turned 15.5 with my Dad right besides me. He was as anxious as I was to get my permit. Lots of riding before that (started at 11 as I said earlier while living on an air base).

Dan

 

[Whammy]

Again, 15 is old enough to be a legally permitted motorcycle operator. OK, he shouldn't have been riding at night on a permit, but still no indication that he did not have a permit or that he was "underage" to be riding.

What's with all of the passing assumptions on the deceased?

That's the whole problem with what happened.^^^^
Passing no assumptions the opportunity presented itself and he took that risk.
Underage riding at night whats more to explain?
In fact we don't know if he was in possession of a permit or not.

Could this have been avoided yes very very much so.
The whole trip of saying we all did something illegal as a young one is true but we all knew the risks and we would of accepted the consequences probably as this young man did too.
Did it have to happen? NO
Whammy reaffirms Tragic loss of a young life. avoidable.

 

[DucatiHoney]

He might have been riding because his parents had just beaten him, or he was going to drop off something to his sick grandmother, or he was joyriding like a knucklehead. No one knows right now.

I kinda figure once someone loses their life, they've paid for whatever sins they committed when they were alive. Clean slate for that person in my book. No matter how bad someone might have been, someone good is likely to miss them. My RIP sentiments go out to those people.

 

[Blankpage]

I had a GS1000 at 16 in highschool. Didn't kill myself but luck gets some credit for that.

 

[gixxerjeff]

Seems like an appropriate time to dust off the old Keith Code quote:
:We begin with a full bucket of luck and an empty bucket of experience. The hope is that we can manage to fill our bucket of experience before our bucket of luck is empty."

 

[OaklandF4i]

I was taking stupid risks on my bicycle when I was 15. Whoever let him use a motorcycle is responsible.

https://www.sfgate.com/news/bayarea...orcyclist-Killed-After-Collision-15244534.php

I suspect there are a whole lot of us who were riding street bikes, even sportbikes at that age who are members of Barf. Myself included.

At that age there are a number of Barf members who probably had already accumulated more years, hours, and motorcycle experience in the dirt than many young adults who purchased their first sport bike. Myself included.

I was riding legally on the street with a permit at 15.

Sorry that wasnt your experience and you missed out. :rolleyes

On a serious note, RIP rider. Far far to young to go. His family must be devastated.

 

[splat]

Whoever let him use a motorcycle is responsible.

:rolleyes You are comparing his ability to ride at the age of 15 to your ability to ride at the age of 15.

Also, take this into consideration:

The cause of the crash remains under investigation, but the police statement said early information suggests the young motorcyclist was headed south on Flosden Road when it struck the car on its passenger side as its driver was turning from northbound Flosden onto westbound Daniel Drive.


https://napavalleyregister.com/news...cle_9f637670-bc46-52bd-afb6-3260ff36edc5.html

But let's go ahead and blame the victim because of his age, right?

 

[banshee01]

Tragic to everyone involved. The driver of the car (if not at fault) the parents and the rest of his family

RIP rider

 

[Beanzy]

Poor kid. Poor family.

 

[budman]

So sad... :rip Young man.

The article did say his motorcycle and we know how good reporters are with bike identification. Could have been a Honda 250 and we have no idea on the circumstance either.

In any case condolences to his family and friends. :rose
Truly sorry to hear of his passing.

Add me to the street riding at 15 list. The day I turned 15-1/2 I had my permit. And.. without my parents knowledge I had been riding for over a year... slipping Pop's Honda 160 out of the garage and going up to the SC mountains. I had a solid 5 years of dirt bikes before riding a street bike legally. It showed when I went by my house on one wheel.

My parents were responsible.. they just did not know I was a punk ass hooligan.

 

[DannoXYZ]

Even cops are bad at identifying bikes. One of them thought my brother's RC390 was a "dual-sport" AHahhahahh!!!!

Poor kid was victim to biker's greatest danger!

 

[duck_rider]

Very sad.

For all we know he could've stolen his dad's bike out of the garage because that's what teenage boys do. I stole my parent's cars all the time when they were gone. Almost wrapped my mom's Bimmer around a pole. Regardless, terrible way to lose someone so young.

 

[Climber]

I bought my first street bike(72 cb350) 1 week before turning 15 with paper route money. I had been driving for almost a year at that point. Driving age in Idaho was 14.

We don't know the circumstances, people are assuming that the rider was at fault due to his age.

:rip rider.