Tesla Model 3: End of the Internal-Combustion Engine?

bpw

Well-known member
Designing anything that automatically retracts without a protective cover and some sort of safety release is pretty poor engineering. Anything that moves randomly can be a pretty big safety hazard since you don't intuitively expect it to start moving with no input form the user.

Also, since it is designed to push there is no reason to have it retract so strongly without some sort of weak link or breakaway, or even to make it loop shaped and able to trap fingers.
 

AbsolutEnduser

Throttle Pusher
JFYI here is a tweet about this with a video (actually two videos, if you scroll up)

https://twitter.com/Stealthwater/status/1179546151957098496
"Ok so I got concerned
..
but definitely a design flaw. This thing should release on bind. ../not willing to test with my finger of course.

This should not happen though
."

^^^ from a Koolaidrinker BTW.

Designing anything that automatically retracts without a protective cover and some sort of safety release is pretty poor engineering. Anything that moves randomly can be a pretty big safety hazard since you don't intuitively expect it to start moving with no input form the user.

Also, since it is designed to push there is no reason to have it retract so strongly without some sort of weak link or breakaway, or even to make it loop shaped and able to trap fingers.
 
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Sharky

Well-known member
Stick your finger in a hole and bad things can happen. Sure it's unfortunate, and I really feel bad for the little girl.... but the lawsuit is nothing but a frivolous money grab. :thumbdown

Well thats a knee jerk reaction isnt it?
 

Killroy1999

Well-known member
I'm an overall Tesla supporter - duh - yet, the hole in the "iced crusher" is a obvious design flaw. I wonder it it will turn into a recall.
 

TheRobSJ

Großer Mechaniker
I'm an overall Tesla supporter - duh - yet, the hole in the "iced crusher" is a obvious design flaw. I wonder it it will turn into a recall.

It should. In this day and age, anything that involves occupant safety, only needs one or two cases (especially if they make national news) before the manufacturer puts out a countermeasure and recalls everything.

A year ago, American Honda recalled all 2017 Acura NSXs for a potential fire risk. No customer car ever actually went up in flames as far as I know, but they saw some fuel seepage from a couple of fuel tanks. They identified the design flaw in the tanks and recalled all the cars to have the tanks replaced.

Then of course there’s Takata airbag inflator fiasco. They’re so paranoid about those things now, we’ve recalled and replaced the same inflator on some vehicles three times now.

If Tesla wants to be stubborn about this finger smasher thing, they’re only going to lose more. Whoever is Tesla’s General Counsel should be fucking fired immediately for letting this go to court and not just settling with the family and make this silently go away. Then also silently send an over the air software update to the vehicles to disable this thing. They’re saying in this case the vehicle was outside of a warranty covered area and was in a prior collision so they think they’re absolved here? Ok, so what’s stopping anyone who’s looking for a big payday that isn’t too attached to their pinky finger from just going and buying a new Tesla right now...or not even buy it, just do it right in one of their showrooms...and “inadvertently” get their finger stuck in there to get injured?
 

AbsolutEnduser

Throttle Pusher
For sure there's never been a finger caught in the door of any other car brand.

Oh it has. Probably happens all the time..

... but not in a hydraulic press.

Not to mention the finger pops out by itself (annoyingly covered with door latch grease)

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aminalmutha

Well-known member
It should. In this day and age, anything that involves occupant safety, only needs one or two cases (especially if they make national news) before the manufacturer puts out a countermeasure and recalls everything.

A year ago, American Honda recalled all 2017 Acura NSXs for a potential fire risk. No customer car ever actually went up in flames as far as I know, but they saw some fuel seepage from a couple of fuel tanks. They identified the design flaw in the tanks and recalled all the cars to have the tanks replaced.

Then of course there’s Takata airbag inflator fiasco. They’re so paranoid about those things now, we’ve recalled and replaced the same inflator on some vehicles three times now.

If Tesla wants to be stubborn about this finger smasher thing, they’re only going to lose more. Whoever is Tesla’s General Counsel should be fucking fired immediately for letting this go to court and not just settling with the family and make this silently go away. Then also silently send an over the air software update to the vehicles to disable this thing. They’re saying in this case the vehicle was outside of a warranty covered area and was in a prior collision so they think they’re absolved here? Ok, so what’s stopping anyone who’s looking for a big payday that isn’t too attached to their pinky finger from just going and buying a new Tesla right now...or not even buy it, just do it right in one of their showrooms...and “inadvertently” get their finger stuck in there to get injured?

This would all be true were Tesla a car company.
 

Blankpage

alien
I saw 3 of them parked at a dealer the last time I went for an oil change. Should have taken a pic but I've seen them so often now I hardly do even a 2nd glance anymore.
 

KooLaid

Hippocritapotamus
Speaking of Tesla, any killer lease deals or promos going in California at the moment? The best I've seen as of yesterday was $441 lease on the standard model 3.
 

mrzuzzo

Well-known member
Speaking of Tesla, any killer lease deals or promos going in California at the moment? The best I've seen as of yesterday was $441 lease on the standard model 3.

All the killer deals were on a week ago.

In addition to price, they gave away 2 free options and also free unlimited supercharging.
 
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