Winner of the 2009 Secretary of Defense National Security Essay competition.

[cardinal03]

Conclusion = don't ask don't tell is a bust.

I can't wait for Bible scope toting queers to start kicking ass overseas!!!!

http://www.ndu.edu/inss/Press/jfq_pages/editions/i55/14.pdf

 

[Lovedoc]

The Spartans were all queersy and they fought all right I guess.

 

[elbacalao]

The Spartans were all queersy and they fought all right I guess.

:laughing

 

[Aluisious]

I have to smile when backwards hicks come up with stupid reasons they can't have gays in their unit. They used to say the same thing about blacks.

 

[jacksprat]

They used to say the same thing about blacks.

The difference being that while one can choose whom to have sex with, one cannot choose their skin color.

It is stupid to say either would effect ones bravery and loyalty on the field of battle.

 

[vaara]

The similarity being that one cannot choose one's sexual orientation, just as one cannot choose one's skin color.

Fixed.

 

[cardinal03]

The difference being that while one can choose whom to have sex with, one cannot choose their skin color.

It is stupid to say either would effect ones bravery and loyalty on the field of battle.

I don't know. I don't think I could choose to have sex with a man rather than my wife tonight any more than I could choose to make my skin purple. I've got to assume gays and lesbians pretty much have the same thing going on.

 

[jacksprat]

Fixed.

:rolleyes
:laughing

I choose to have sex with women. I don't choose to be attracted to them. There's a difference.

 

[vaara]

:rolleyes
:laughing

I choose to have sex with women. I don't choose to be attracted to them. There's a difference.

Precisely, but "attractional orientation" (to coin a phrase) is an immutable characteristic, just like race.

Currently you can be kicked out of the military for simply saying you're gay -- whether you actually act on it or not.

 

[MtnRacer]

All three of you are full of shit. You don't choose to have sex with anybody. They chose you and you mouthbreathers jumped on it!

Steve

 

[Johndicezx9]

Fixed.

I don't know, that's how Ted Haggard's wife describes Ted these days... "fixed".

 

[GiorgioFurioso]

All three of you are full of shit. You don't choose to have sex with anybody. They chose you and you mouthbreathers jumped on it!

Steve

Troof.

 

[vaara]

I don't know, that's how Ted Haggard's wife describes Ted these days... "fixed".

Yes, I doubt very much whether he's still attached to his testicles.

 

[jacksprat]

All three of you are full of shit. You don't choose to have sex with anybody. They chose you and you mouthbreathers jumped on it!

Steve

:laughing
I let her think she chose me. It makes her feel in charge.

Precisely, but "attractional orientation" (to coin a phrase) is an immutable characteristic, just like race.

I don't actually agree with this. If you look at men in prison, although they identify themselves as totally hetero, they can become attracted to men and act accordingly.

When I say I "don't choose" I mean it comes naturally, but that doesn't mean that I "can't choose".:laughing

I do not believe there is any characteristic one cannot change about themselves if they know how and have the proper motivation. Whether or not one needs to is an entirely different matter.

 

[cardinal03]

I don't actually agree with this. If you look at men in prison, although they identify themselves as totally hetero, they can become attracted to men and act accordingly.

To be fair, I think there's a bit of a difference between being gay and being held down in a prison shower and anally gang-raped. It's not much of a choice when Bubba's got you locked in a cell with him, he gently climbs into your bed, holds you down and says "This is going to hurt. Make a sound and I'll cut your throat."

 

[jacksprat]

It's not much of a choice when Bubba's got you locked in a cell with him, he gently climbs into your bed, holds you down and says "This is going to hurt. Make a sound and I'll cut your throat."

Yes, but does Bubba think he's gay? :laughing

It doesn't matter to me who one bangs or what the color of your skin. But to say they are the same doesn't make sense to me. One cannot change one, one can the other. Neither matters to me.

 

[Aluisious]

The difference being that while one can choose whom to have sex with, one cannot choose their skin color.

So what you're saying is, it's not cool to have sex with blacks?

:confused

 

[jacksprat]

So what you're saying is, it's not cool to have sex with blacks?

:confused

No black dudes for me, plenty of black women.

 

[vaara]

I do not believe there is any characteristic one cannot change about themselves if they know how and have the proper motivation. Whether or not one needs to is an entirely different matter.

But try as I might, I can never become black.

 

[Aluisious]

But try as I might, I can never become black.

Try harder.