who here is a MASTER at carbon fiber?????

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#1Freak

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I have a project. I want to take a product that is current on the market and have it made in CF. I will pay VERY high dollar for this, but it has to work and you have to be good. SO, barfers, who do you know that is a guru in CF layup and production?

Brian
408-499-8513
 
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Many moons ago I worked with a guy Blair, engineer that lived in Berkeley. He used to make his own CF bike parts.
He was well known by motorcyclist in the area, some people on here may remember him or still have contact. I haven't seen him in years. Last time I did he was he was either heading for or returning from Iraq. But dude seemed in on the ground floor of carbon fiber fabing.
Yeah I know, not much help.
 
bpw

bpw

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Maybe start calling some of the smaller carbon bicycle manufacturers, must be a few locally and they will have the skills.

Bunch of composite tech came to town for americas cup as well.

Maybe one of the engineering schools would think its a fun project?

The trick with carbon is the engineering, the actual layup isn't that tricky.
 
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#1Freak

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you are 100% correct, am looking for someone who knows the engineering (experience vs book knowledge) of CF and the application of it. this combo is expensive, and worth every penny. My project has a funding ceiling of 10K. unfortunately I do not know where to look for this expertise, hence this post
 
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Brian, Mark Henry at Double Dog Moto would have been a natural choice but since he sold it, I don't know if they have the juice to do stuff like you are talking about anymore.
Mark is living in France and doesn't BARF much anymore, too bad. He would be a great resource.
Bellissimoto own the patents and sell the products.
Perhaps Stanton or anyone who had a relationship with Mark has his contact info.
He would be a great resource IMO and he is a fair dinkum bloke!
Might be worth looking him up.
 
russ69

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It's really no different than any other composite design and manufacture (carbon/epoxy). The cost of the carbon mat is higher but that's about it. Any glass shop can do what you need. It's carbon/carbon that needs specialty manufacturing and processing.
 
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aminalmutha

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russ69 said:
It's really no different than any other composite design and manufacture (carbon/epoxy). The cost of the carbon mat is higher but that's about it. Any glass shop can do what you need. It's carbon/carbon that needs specialty manufacturing and processing.
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If all you're looking for is a part, then this is true, but if you want to see the carbon weave and/or actually need correct stiffness and strength in the needed places, this is way, way off. CF is NOT the same as fiberglass.

You have to specify the correct type of weave, thickness, lay it up in the correct pattern, cut the fabric in the correct shapes, have decent molds, mold release, and an autoclave if you really want good strength and stiffness. Should probably vacuum bag it at bare minimum.

You can't just blast fibers in a mold and sand it down to the appropriate size and shape, like you can with fiberglass. I'd find someone with CF experience and not be a guinea pig for someone who has done fiberglass and nothing else.
 
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MikeL

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#1Freak said:
I have a project. I want to take a product that is current on the market and have it made in CF. I will pay VERY high dollar for this, but it has to work and you have to be good. SO, barfers, who do you know that is a guru in CF layup and production?

Brian
408-499-8513
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Is this a motorcycle related project? If so, maybe one of the mods could move this to General as it would get far more views.
 
wannabe

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My old roomie from college used to be the engineering manager at Kestrel bicycles. He would tell me stories about banging his head against the wall trying to find sources for large amounts of structural carbon fiber because Boeing was basically buying most of the world supply at the time. I had no idea that there were different grades of the stuff with specific trade offs in weight and strength.

The reason I'm telling this story is that if your part has any structural portions, you should work with an experienced engineer and not just some guys who knows how to lay and glass the fiber to make it look good.
 
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#1Freak

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firearms related. just have few ideas in my head, and wanted to see if anybody had a good source. i need to do a bit more research on my end before i bring in the big(and expensive) for hire guns
 
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#1Freak said:
firearms related. just have few ideas in my head, and wanted to see if anybody had a good source. i need to do a bit more research on my end before i bring in the big(and expensive) for hire guns
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Have you checked to see if the part has done before in C/F on a firearm?

I love C/F but, on a firearm? You'd really have do some stress, durability and longevity studies.:cool
 
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#1Freak

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yeah, i know, it can be done, but i think you would only save about 8 oz, i was looking to save about 30 oz, then it would be worth the cost
 
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