tips on wheelies

[Flap]

Sounds like you have all of your weight shifted to the front, like that it can't come up. Hard to say without seeing you though, but try to not put too much on your handlebars, you want to balance yourself on your footrests (and don't hang your foot into it, stand on the front part of your foot) and stay easy on the handles without loosing touch.
Some people even "pull" their handlebars a little bit upwards, depending on the bike u ride. The ZX should do it easily.

 

[wingnutthehutt]

Flap's right. You are probably leaning forward on the bars. Make sure you keep your upper body loose and come up with the bike, don't let the bike come to you.

One thing that I notice almost every student do is snap the throttle and lean forward. It's instinct to lean forward and duck behind the windscreen in anticipation of a burst of speed. This will work against you EVERY time.

 

[Flap]

Flap's right.

Flap is also the one who PMed you on myspace about the additional wheelie school instructor needed :angel ...I was thinking of - if of interest - helping out on Sundays, just for fun and not for bucks. True bike lover addiction :teeth and maybe a sliiight helpers syndrome? :laughing

 

[wingnutthehutt]

I know who you are, I thought it was kinda convenient that you had responded to this page already so I chimed in with a litle extra experience.

Just helping out on Sundays doesn't really help me too much. I need instructors to be able to make it for at least two days. You're more than welcome to come hang out at the next school though. Get a free lunch and hang out with some fellow riders.

 

[wingnutthehutt]

great tip, I got the first gear power up down now, and slipping the clutch on first gear. Can some one tell me if I have to slip the clutch for second gear wheelie, or just do another power up, and also how fast should I be going on second? I'm also a newbie at stunts. I have 03 r6

I'm not sure how much practice you've gotten in since posting this, but there are a couple things I'll mention. Slipping the clutch is a bad idea. You're going to wear out your clutch super fast if you're slipping it to get the front wheel up in the air. Also, becuase of clutch wear, you would need to increase the frequency of your oil changes.

Clutching the front wheel up is done by pulling the clutch in and popping it back out almost instantaneously while under light to moderate acceleration. This is more aggressive than your slipping, but it's not going to overheat and wear out your clutch plates as quick.

I'm unsure of why you want to pull it up in second gear when you're doing it in first already. Option one being you want to go faster, and option two being you want to carry it farther. IF you're looking to carry it farther, then don't do it in second. Keep going with the first gear wheelies and bring the front wheel up higher. Bringing the front of the bike higher creates more wind resistance, and puts more of your weight back allowing you to shut of the throttle slightly to keep your speed down.


If you just want to go faster, well, that's what second will give you. The technique for getting it up should be the same for all gears if you're using the clutch, just slightly more aggressive. And COVER THAT REAR BRAKE.

 

[Trashed 600]

Very informative, but I like Gary's way better. Easier to understand if you can get past the bad grammer.

 

[robinson.dc]

good ol' wheelies.

Good advice. I rode motocross for a few years and trials for another 2-3 and competed regularly. I have had three sportbikes now, gpz750, 97' zx750 and my newly beloved 99' SVS 650 which I am trying to learn the balance points on. Not as simple as a 70kg trials bike where you can land from 4 feet in the air on the rear wheel and ride it out feathering everything but the gearshift lever! For me the main thing is not wanting to spend 600 bucks every crash on average, hense me getting a streetfighter front end and sliders, etc. Anyhow, that 650 has some beautiful torque to push up that front end. Well, ride hard and take er' easy!

 

[wingnutthehutt]

Here's a couple shots of an On One Wheel student who went through Level One and then came back for Level Two on HIS SV650. http://garphoto.com/whee/wheelie4.html

 

[Mike T]

^ interesting to see a Busa in there.....

 

[LuckyStar387]

Can you do power wheelies on Kawi ZZR 600's?

 

[sytfu_RR]

^ interesting to see a Busa in there.....

you should see the video with Jason Britton, killin a busa, then he 12'd it and parked it on the stock exhuast/tail...lol

* and for those who keep saying clutching wheelies is bad...,.... Knock it OFF. Generally all Stunters Clutch wheelies, from my experience I'm still on my stock clutch with over 20k on the bike and I clutch it up always, it dosent slip or anything. Comes right up to Balance Point, and I dont waste RPM chasing BP just to get the bike up. Then you can keep your wheelies slower.... instead of doing wheelie flybys at 10303035310 mph ...... If you watch the video and follow the method he shows you to slip the clutch it will work best.

 

[inkking]

Can you do power wheelies on Kawi ZZR 600's?

05-07 zzr 600 yes. It gets up in 1st and if your really wringing its neck in the twisties it can get up in second, but rarely.

 

[wingnutthehutt]

Are you serious? Yes, it's the same as the older model ZX6-R. It's been said a thousand times. ANY sport bike built since 1987 will wheelie. It's all in the technique. If you don't think your bike can do it, don't try it. My ZX6R is exactly the same as your ZZR, just older.

 

[Mike T]

you should see the video with Jason Britton, killin a busa, then he 12'd it and parked it on the stock exhuast/tail...lol

* and for those who keep saying clutching wheelies is bad...,.... Knock it OFF. Generally all Stunters Clutch wheelies, from my experience I'm still on my stock clutch with over 20k on the bike and I clutch it up always, it dosent slip or anything. Comes right up to Balance Point, and I dont waste RPM chasing BP just to get the bike up. Then you can keep your wheelies slower.... instead of doing wheelie flybys at 10303035310 mph ...... If you watch the video and follow the method he shows you to slip the clutch it will work best.

hehe sweet!!!! ahaha wouldnt mind seeing that Busa rider do his thing. and as for clutching wheelies..i thought you'd need to do this to pop 2nd gear wheelies?

 

[sytfu_RR]

1, 2, 3, 4 maybe even 5 clutching it up can work for any gear.. just depends on the person and the way they do it. granted the higher you go up in gear you'll probably have to bounce it also..but why would you want to wheelie so fast?.. lol

 

[Port4mance]

I stunted an 01 zx6r for years. Easy as hell to stunt.

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[wingnutthehutt]

* and for those who keep saying clutching wheelies is bad...,.... Knock it OFF. Generally all Stunters Clutch wheelies, from my experience I'm still on my stock clutch with over 20k on the bike and I clutch it up always, it dosent slip or anything.

But for people starting out, it's the fastest way to end up on the ground. I've seen people learn both ways. I agree, when done properly, it's not THAT hard on your clutch, but that also depends on proper adjustment, quality of oil you're using, regular maintenance etc. Also, I'm betting you don't technically "SLIP" the clutch, you "pop" it. Slipping is what you do in San Francisco when you have to go uphill from a stop OR at the start of a race.

 

[Moto4Fun]

As I have had my super hawk for 6 months now, I have decided to learn wheelies. My old 600 was completely incapable of wheelies, and I was afraid to wheelie the RD350 so I don't have much experience on one wheel. I have gotten the unintended loft from both the RD and the Hawk while under acceleration but nothing near the balance point, and nothing abrupt. So I have been practicing from the beginning. First gear baby wheelies, just twisting from a slow put put, or throttle off/throttle on. No clutch involved. Sometimes I get greater results than others, and I am afraid to move on until I can consistently pull it up in first. What I have noticed though is that the acceleration that results from grabbing so much throttle seems to affect my head. I feel pressure, (especially if it doesn't pop up) as the bike accelerates rapidly through the Rev range in first gear. After spending 15-20 minutes out on a deserted road, I almost felt car-sick, and can only attribute it to the sudden acceleration on the inner ear. Anybody else experience this or find it hard to learn wheelies because of the rapid increase in perceived speed. I feel like it is a mental barrier that I need to make it past. Anybody have any tips?

 

[wingnutthehutt]

If you're experiencing vertigo from hard acceleration you should not be trying to do wheelies. If you're out on a desert road though, you may be just overexerting yourself and getting dehydrated. Learning how to wheelie on a big twin is stressful and strenuous. Make sure you have plenty of water in your system, salt, potassium. I always kept tons of water, Gatorade, and bananas on hand at the schools. I also had sodium and potassium tabs on hand too for those hotter days.

Safety first doesn't just mean always wear all your gear.

 

[rizer]

I can do a first gear wheelie.I just cant keep it upWell ,I havent really tried.I wanna know how to do a wheelie in 2nd.I've tried but I can't seem to do it.Anyone know how?