BlueScholar
Veteran Lurker
They are called "lower" appendages for a reason:x
Squid catch-of-the-day
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SuperMotoD
Well-known member
Dad Fail !
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It is technically legal.
Similar images and discussions in past threads have led me to believe that I'm in the minority here, but I completely agree that putting a child on a streetbike is a huge mistake.
They cannot hold on as well as an adult.
For the most part, adults can read traffic and even as a passenger can prepare for almost every basic move a rider makes. Example: when cross street light turns yellow, they can prepare for acceleration.
Me personal test is that my passengers have a clear understanding of the risks of injury or death.
Most gear (including helmets) are not appropriately sized for children.
DTM74
It's not my fault...
I saw that one the news this morning. The CHP traffic guy said it would be illegal here. I thought if feet were touching the pegs, helmet on, it was not illegal. I still think it's a horrible idea.
mbharat
Focus and ride...
As a father of a 2 year old daughter, I agree this is a DAD FAIL! Shivers run down my spine, I am gonna give my two year old a huge hug.
Hopefully the child in the pic. is safe.
vgullotta
Baker
Well, I agree the kid looks too young, but I think it's tough to judge this situation. You don't know this guy and his daughter. I agree children aren't able to hang on as well, and I agree it is dangerous, but hopefully Dad knows his daughter best and I hope and pray he is certain of her capabilities.
I have a 2 year old daughter as well, and I will probably give her rides on the back when she's 8ish (depending on her). I let my boy ride on the back since he was 8. Short distances, slow speeds and always prepared, but it's fun, we get to ride together. I take him to little league on the bike now, granted it's a small cruiser and pretty comfortable, not a sport bike, but I believe if Dad is a smart man and knows his daughter like he should, then this might not be as bad as people can make it out to be. I don't know, just my two cents.
I'm certainly not saying this guy is being safe, though. I'm just saying you can't really call this a squid pic lol
I have a 2 year old daughter as well, and I will probably give her rides on the back when she's 8ish (depending on her). I let my boy ride on the back since he was 8. Short distances, slow speeds and always prepared, but it's fun, we get to ride together. I take him to little league on the bike now, granted it's a small cruiser and pretty comfortable, not a sport bike, but I believe if Dad is a smart man and knows his daughter like he should, then this might not be as bad as people can make it out to be. I don't know, just my two cents.
I'm certainly not saying this guy is being safe, though. I'm just saying you can't really call this a squid pic lol
mbharat
Focus and ride...
:thumbup
Agreed, I would also give my daughter a rider when she is older (if she wants to). But the kid in the pic. looks too young, but maybe that is just me.
KittenMeat
Life: It's Terminal!
they'd be fine on a gold wing or bmw with a backrest =)
I disagree. Every backrest I've ever seen is located rearward enough that an adult passenger can sit back far enough to have very limited access to the rider. A child is going to be so far back that gaining access to the rider (to hold on) will be impossible.
Not to mention a backrest only addresses acceleration, or impact from the rear. Emergency braking or swerving will cause motions that cannot be 'fixed' with a backrest.
On another tangent:
Years ago I used to see an EX500 in Sunnyvale with a child strapped into a child carseat bolted to the rear seat of the motorcycle. This was prior to cell phones, or I would have used it to call the cops.
David919
Ride Again!
I never let my daughters ride with me until they were big enough to wrap their arms around me, lock on and understand the physics, good and bad of being outside the cage. My youngest, 13, loves it and rides around town with me regularly, my oldest, 15, learning to drive, won't ride with me anymore. She decided the other cagers were to much of a variable to risk her future. Point being, big enough to hold on, be aware of surroundings and decide for themselves. No pressure. Our family RV travels just to ride roller coasters, no sissyfaces here. I'm not a fan of small kids on bikes.
Smash Allen
Banned
This is the stance I will take, nicely put.
Except for that last sentence.
I would add "on the public road". In my opinion kids should get onto two wheels in the dirt ASAP. The move from dirt to street should be their choosing, with proper track instruction provided of course:ride
Terminal_G
Well-known member
Hot topic for sure!
My daughter starting riding with me when she was six. She could touch the pegs and my jacket had good "hand holds."
I bought her the best gear I could....but not much is out there for 6 year old girls.
Now, I didn't go on interstates; I stuck the back roads to limit other drivers' influences. Man! Did she love the acceleration and leaning of a motorcycle (even a freakin' V-Strom 650)!
I shouldn't have to say it, but I will before I get the typical internet abuse - I took it easy and introduced her slowly.
She is now nine years old. She has grown into MUCH better fitting gear, and she still lifts a fist in the air when I slap the throttle to pass a car.
Spartan925
Warriors' Watch Rider
This is cool as long as the car seat is rear-facing, right?
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RightCoastBias
F8TRED
I spent many years and miles on the back of my dad's bike from the ages of 9-15ish. Some of the best times in my life and part of why I love riding.
dwarf
Super StreetFighter
I see a guy on commuting rush hour traffic sharing lanes with a kid on the back on 24 near the caldecott sometimes. Makes me nervous
Terminal_G
Well-known member
That has been my biggest fear!
bergmen
Well-known member
I got a ticket one time for having a passenger on the back (high school, same age as me) and no passenger pegs.
I doubt if the law has changed since then. Legs need to be long enough to reach the passenger pegs.
Dan