South America - advice requested

Lupin

Well-known member
Dude, it was the "real adventurer" bicyclekid just a few posts above! :twofinger

And FYI, Two Wheels Through Terror, by Glen Hegstad, is an awesome book (all about his storied, and interrupted ride to Tierra del Fuego).


Ha! true! I have to practice my reading comprehension, and read entire threads before posting.

I thought bicyclekids post was awesome.

I have Hegstads book, he did a talk at CalMoto some time back that I sat in on. Great book and hard to put down once you start it.
 

bicyclekid

is so jaded
Ha! true! I have to practice my reading comprehension, and read entire threads before posting.

I thought bicyclekids post was awesome.

I have Hegstads book, he did a talk at CalMoto some time back that I sat in on. Great book and hard to put down once you start it.


yeah ...sorry i cant spell for shyte .. and dont hav a book out and dont do too much pr ...i tend to live a very "private life" .... but its all good we here for thw same fix ... if you havve the drive to risk your life like this i say go for it ..rockstar style ... cause the rewards are nill .. sign me up ...:thumbup:ride
 

bicyclekid

is so jaded
Dude, it was the "real adventurer" bicyclekid just a few posts above! :twofinger

And FYI, Two Wheels Through Terror, by Glen Hegstad, is an awesome book (all about his storied, and interrupted ride to Tierra del Fuego).


yeah it took me a while to accept the adventurer thing even though i tried to fight it for most my life .. but it all points that way ... being a sagitarius will tell you sum thing bout me ... not a cancer home body ...sorry ...
riding my bicycle across the country more than once , climbing some of the tallest mountains around , backpacking in to the middle of no place , visiting the arctic and having the natives ask me "what village you from " then ending up in places in mexico where people have not seen a guy like me ...calling me "the original mayan " what do you think am i adventure quality ....:twofinger
 

cp1

Well-known member
it's all good fun. I like these posts. learning from a variety of people.
and for what it's worth... I don't really care if I have to leave the GSA behind... I am trying to figure out what works best for a 6'4 guy that weighs 180lbs + gear :)

i'm gathering info and will continue planning...thanks again for any contribution :)

(and no... it's not a mid life crisis....I've been around a little bit) :) :)
 

cp1

Well-known member
I'm gonna get the book. thank you!

Dude, it was the "real adventurer" bicyclekid just a few posts above! :twofinger

And FYI, Two Wheels Through Terror, by Glen Hegstad, is an awesome book (all about his storied, and interrupted ride to Tierra del Fuego).
 

afm199

Well-known member
Just a note of caution. After planning your route, contact the state department and ask about travel advisories and terrorist activity. (Not Al Qaeda, but local gangs/protestors/drug traffickers, pissed off Indians, and cops unfriendly to Americans).

Guatemala, Peru, Colombia and Mexico have areas you do NOT want to visit, go through, spend time in or even come near. Even Argentina has problems.

Things have changes in South America, and not for the better. It's a bit like Oakland. I live there and love it, some areas I won't go through at night, and some I won't go through at all.
 

cp1

Well-known member
Thanks Ernie.
I think every country has its own set of problems. I lived in South America and saw some of the changes but it's nothing new and constantly evolving.

Looking forward to it!
 

rean1mator

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man, i'd be skeptical of anything the state dept has to say about well, anything.

if you want a more realistic report of the country/area you will be travelling in find a forum and ask people who have been through that area recently. ie advrider.

half the shite that the state dept spews is often politically motivated based on their current relationship with said country.

and a word to the wise: don't go waving your american flag anywhere outside of the US. 90% of the people living on this earth do not like(and many flat out hate) americans.

i was in south east asia during 9/11 and was shocked about how people in other parts of the world REALLY felt about the world trade center attacks. some of it along the lines of it's about time....

Just a note of caution. After planning your route, contact the state department and ask about travel advisories and terrorist activity. (Not Al Qaeda, but local gangs/protestors/drug traffickers, pissed off Indians, and cops unfriendly to Americans).

Guatemala, Peru, Colombia and Mexico have areas you do NOT want to visit, go through, spend time in or even come near. Even Argentina has problems.

Things have changes in South America, and not for the better. It's a bit like Oakland. I live there and love it, some areas I won't go through at night, and some I won't go through at all.
 
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Craigmo

Member
I did a Dual Sport trip in Peru with Inca Moto...flew down, bikes, guides, etc. provided. The guide prefered XR600's (air cooled), while most of rode XR400's, which were pretty much perfect for 1000 miles of desert, mountain and cloud forest riding.

I asked about his choice of bikes for the tour and he said that "Air Cooled" was thing he looked for first, as there is that much less to worry about breaking / repairing. The 600's became 650's and went from air cooled to water cooled, so he was keeping his old steed instead of upgrading.

That said, I've been to Cabo and back on a KLR650 and had zero problems (slime did it's job on a cactus thorn). Though, once again, it ain't the most comfortable bike to load up. Since that trip, I bought a KTM 950 Adv for an Alaska trip (I'm supposed to be gone right now, but the economy says otherwise). With 34k miles, I have had no problems with it and it does a very good job offroad, especially compared to the KLR. It's bigger, but you only notice that on really slow, steep areas.

I think the BMW would be the best bet overall. It's air cooled, they have an excellent network for getting parts to BFE ASAP, and they have a billion accessories to meet your every need. On the other hand, don't make it look too nice, because you won't get the "poor guy on the m-cycle" sympathy, from the locals, that a KLR will muster.

As far as the trip. Pack only the necessities (tools and basic clothing) and carry as many common wear items as you can (levers,sprockets,chain,spark plugs,brake pads,bolts & nuts, etc). You can buy clothes as you go, so don't waste space with a lot of them. Wear old clothes and use them as rags when you have to work on the bike...then get new clothes You'll blend in better, and they are cheap to boot.

Stay in smaller towns if you can. Cities are full of criminals, especially if the people are exposed to "rich tourists" on a regular basis. People in small towns / villages are friendly and usually curious why you are travelling on a m-cycle. They are eager to offer assistance, too.

Do plan ahead, somewhat, avoiding the potential bad areas (cities). And do have the numbers to the U.S. Embassy in each country. Another trick is to write down your credit card numbers in a code that only you understand (offset #'s by 1 or something), with their Int'l Customer Service toll free number. That way if your actual cards are stolen, they can manually enter the number and you can have a place to stay, buy parts, etc.

Also, cash is king in small vilages. In Mexico, people in the smaller towns would not take bills if they had ANY rips or tears on them, so try to get "good looking" money, and stash it in a few different places in case you get jacked.

Have fun.
 

cp1

Well-known member
Craigmo: Thank you so much for taking the time to write all your insights down. It's very helpful and I'll make sure to keep it all in mind.

I've gone to a few dealerships this past week and I can't imagine doing it on smaller dual sports like the Suzuki DR and Honda XR. 6'4 and 180-200lbs with gear (riding gear) + the gear necessary for the trip. I feel way to big on them for 14.000 miles.

The GS1200 is super comfy but for the price, a DL1000 might do the same job and I am more comfortable working on it mecanically.

The KTM950 is another option I looked at, there are a lot a problems reported and it spooked me a bit. It seems that the issues have been resolves on the 990s but I may be wrong. It would be an african trip/euro trip, I'd feel more comfortable with a KTM given the amount of support available. I haven't seen to many KTM on the many trips I've taken in South America.

So getting there in the bike choice.....
Thanks again!
 

HiggyB

Now flyin' solo...
The KTM950 is another option I looked at, there are a lot a problems reported and it spooked me a bit. It seems that the issues have been resolves on the 990s but I may be wrong.
Some of the issues have been resolved, but not all, so going with a 990 won't make life perfect. But I tell ya, ride one (950 or 990) and you'll be hooked like a junkie on crack, after that first hit it's Orange Crush all the way! :ride

(says the addict with a serious problem... :teeth)

(addicts don't always make the wisest choices... :|)
 

cp1

Well-known member
I rode a 950 for a few 100 miles on pavement and a bit of off road. I love the bike. I found it plently comfortable, nibble on the road and dirt, lots of power, great brakes and it suited my frame very nicely.

great bike, I actually like it better than the GSA or Vstrom. It's the south american KTM support/accessibility to parts that might be of a concern.

Orange Crush! :)


Some of the issues have been resolved, but not all, so going with a 990 won't make life perfect. But I tell ya, ride one (950 or 990) and you'll be hooked like a junkie on crack, after that first hit it's Orange Crush all the way! :ride

(says the addict with a serious problem... :teeth)

(addicts don't always make the wisest choices... :|)
 

summitdog

Motorcycle Lawyer
Thanks for the thread and the information. I have looking to upgrade from my Transalp. While the KTM's have some issues, I think I am going with the SE.

Scotty
 

cp1

Well-known member
For some reasons.... I'm getting sucked in to the world of a GSA
:)
the feedback on this thread has been very helpful. Thanks again
 

slackmeyer

Well-known member
I think it's kind of a wash between KTM and BMW. I just got a KTM 950, and just trying to sell my BMW GS. The KTM has higher maintanence requirements (kind of- they're no more often, but more involved). The BMW is, I believe, more prone to break down in a way that can't be fixed by the side of the road. It's a lot easier to carry a spare waterpump and fuelpump (KTM) than to carry a spare final drive or driveshaft (BMW).

In the end, I chose KTM for performance, even if it is a sacrifice in maintanence and operating costs. And if I was headed to south america solo, I'd tend to look towards a DR650.
 
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