So what happens when you are knocked down...

anytwowilldo

Well-known member
So what happens when you are knocked down and seriously hurt while riding your moto without any fault yourself? Like when someone just changes lanes into you and sends you flying and you are seriously injured. Assuming you are injured by someone with assets, owns a home etc, does your attorney go after their assets after eating through their insurance policy?
 

rsrider

47% parasite 53% ahole
Yes, and you get sell their children into slavery. The US legal system is so awesome.
 
You could take someone to civil court if you injury/property costs exceed the insurance they cover.

But if you're going after an insurance company, expect it to be at least a few years before you see a dime.
 

splat

Well-known member
First step to recovering any damages: RIDE WITH A CAMERA RECORDING.

Witnesses will never ever see what you saw. Tendency is to blame the motorcyclist. CYA.
 

packnrat

Well-known member
call your lawyer and NEVER sign any papers while in the bed at the hospital.


ambulance chasers are scum of the worst kind. :afm199




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El Feo

Rich Kid on LSD
What I do when I'm knocked down...

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anytwowilldo

Well-known member
I used to ride the SMR with a motorcycle accident attorney. I remember him saying "once they say I didn't see him" I had them. He would aggressively go after the driver with everything he had. I also remember him saying that many people did not have enough insurance to cover the damage to a 25 YO and often he would take their house or life savings or both.

My question is do attorneys do as well as they did in the past? If you are not at fault, how much does the party at fault get hit? I bring this up as so many have been injured or killed recently. I hope that if drivers realize how much they have on the line, they will be better driver. Personally, given the chance, I won't even drive behind a rider. I'm too afraid something will go sideways and I don't want to be the one to injure someone if it is my fault or not.
 

antidote

Well-known member
As a rider or cager in this state that allows RIDICULOUSly small levels of coverage, you are well advised to get uninsured/underinsured coverage in the largest number your insurance offers ASAP. Bonus: you will probably get to avoid lawyers while you are busy with physical rehab, which is probably nice during such a crappy time as it would be.

You think the bastards with 15k in auto insurance (if any) own property or assets? HAHAHAH! 62% of Americans apparently cant afford a surprise $500 bill. Have fun garnishing their under the table cash wages too.

I suppose you MIGHT get hit by a Google exec with the 3.7 million dollar home and insurance that has 500k+ of coverage anyway, but it seems the half broken 98 Hyundai Accent is gonna roll ya instead.
 
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Aj510

Well-known member
You can't go after both.its one or the other, if you settle with an insurance company there is a stipulation in that paperwork that by accepting the settlement you are releasing the individual from further liability. If you have complications from the injury that occured during the accident you can go after the insurance company for those complications.

But you cannot sue both, and if you try and Sue the person at fault you can betbtheybare just going to turn it over to their insurance to fight.

If you try and Sue the person and not the insurance I doubt you will find much help from a lawyer as there typically is not as much money in a suit against a person vs insurance company. Remember the lawyer has to be paid and if he's taking a cut of the settlement the settlement has to be worth it.

And you can't just sue for any amount of money and you can't sue for a persons house. You sue for x amount of dollars and then have to prove that the amount of money that your suing for is justifiable. Meaning you can't sue someone for 500k for totalling your 20k bike, and medical bills are black and white.
 

Aj510

Well-known member
You could take someone to civil court if you injury/property costs exceed the insurance they cover.

But if you're going after an insurance company, expect it to be at least a few years before you see a dime.

+1 You can go after the remaing balance if the insurance doesn't fully covering the damages. Damages meaning black and white cost figures not something you imagine you are due. Actual suits take time as the insurance company will fight unless you take the settlement, but again accepting the settlement will mean releasing further liability of the individual at fault.

And you will have to have proof for everything that you are claiming as damages
 

El Feo

Rich Kid on LSD
Is she a friend of Gronk?

But you cannot sue both, and if you try and Sue the person at fault you can betbtheybare just going to turn it over to their insurance to fight.

If you try and Sue the person and not the insurance I doubt you will find much help from a lawyer as there typically is not as much money in a suit against a person vs insurance company. Remember the lawyer has to be paid and if he's taking a cut of the settlement the settlement has to be worth it.
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Archimedes

Fire Watcher
You could take someone to civil court if you injury/property costs exceed the insurance they cover.

But if you're going after an insurance company, expect it to be at least a few years before you see a dime.

Not true in every case at all. Depends on the strength of your case and your medical bills relative to their insurance limits. I got hit by a distracted teenager 18 months ago. My medical alone was over $300k, not to mention permanent reduction in quality of life. My claim was way over his insurance limit. They paid me his max within 60 days and the only reason it took that long is that I had to negotiate subrogation with my health insurance company before I accepted settlement from his insurance company.

OP, the exception to this is if you get him by a minor, you only have recourse against his/her insurance and assets. In California the parents are only liable up to $25k. To sue the parents, you have to prove that they were directly negligent in allowing the minor to operate the vehicle, which is extremely difficult.

My lawyer said my case was a $1million+ claim, except it was a minor with no assets. So after insurance subrogation I got about $65k for my permanent injuries. I had no intention to sue anybody though, even if they were an adult, as it was an honest mistake and I don't think you fuck someone's life up for an honest mistake. Shit happens. Riding motos is risky. I chose to take that risk.
 

louemc

Well-known member
So what happens when you are knocked down and seriously hurt while riding your moto without any fault yourself? Like when someone just changes lanes into you and sends you flying and you are seriously injured. Assuming you are injured by someone with assets, owns a home etc, does your attorney go after their assets after eating through their insurance policy?

Someone changes lines and knocks you down? You're oblivious to minding the gap they are jumping into...
You don't have the skill to turn your bike and go into that gap quicker (and farther) than they are going...
And you call that Not being a fault of Yours?

Holy crap :rofl
 

UDRider

FLCL?
Someone changes lines and knocks you down? You're oblivious to minding the gap they are jumping into...
You don't have the skill to turn your bike and go into that gap quicker (and farther) than they are going...
And you call that Not being a fault of Yours?

Holy crap :rofl

It was just an example to start a discussion about insurance claim Lou. Simmer down.
 

byke

Well-known member
Someone changes lines and knocks you down? You're oblivious to minding the gap they are jumping into...
You don't have the skill to turn your bike and go into that gap quicker (and farther) than they are going...
And you call that Not being a fault of Yours?

Holy crap :rofl

There are everyday situations where a rider's safety completely depends on someone else not being an idiot. 100% control of your own riding destiny is nothing short of an arrogant illusion.
 

anytwowilldo

Well-known member
Someone changes lines and knocks you down? You're oblivious to minding the gap they are jumping into...
You don't have the skill to turn your bike and go into that gap quicker (and farther) than they are going...
And you call that Not being a fault of Yours?

Holy crap :rofl

I'm just throwing hypothetically situations out there for discussion. I've heard people say "Well they were riding a motorcycle, they knew it was dangerous and they got what they deserved." I don't agree and want to know how peoples accidents were handled. If you put a 25 YO in a wheel chair or worse and he or she needs care for the rest of his or her life, that accident could be well into 7 digits. That is far beyond most peoples auto insurance. If that happens, do people start to have their assets taken away too? If a couple of those cases make the news, folks might start to pay more attention and "care" more about motorcyclists.

Lou, I'm vigilant and have ridden both on and off road for 40 years now. I rode the coast on my street bike on Sunday and Hollister on my dirt bike the weekend before. My skills are current. I avoided rain ruts, cactus and donkeys in Baja at freeway speed in the sand earlier this year in Baja but I'm not sure I can avoid a Chevy Suburban turning left in front of me or the car that is thrown into me from the rear because it was rear ended in traffic. I'm not of the school mind that all motorcycle accidents are avoidable.
 
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