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Aware

Well-known member
A shame that California makes him do that. When I took my US license to Australia they converted it to a full local license, including the motorcycle endorsement. No hassle, no tests.

I moved from UK to Mississippi and was able to just cconvert my license. Then again when I moved to Georgia, then California. I had to do California "written" test, that was it.
 

MapleRoad

Well-known member
Waiving the tests is at the discretion of the DMV. He's Canadian, so going to the DMV and politely asking to have the test waived while showing his Canadian license has a decent chance of success. "Excuse me, I heard that you can waive the test because I already have a valid Motorcycle license in Canada. Would you, please?" and, if declined, ask if the supervisor might be willing, along with a sheepish "I just really don't want to take that test. It makes me so nervous!"

Manipulate the situation as much as possible! DMV workers are people who interact with hundreds of other people every day. A lot of the people who come to the DMV are unpleasant and make the employees' jobs harder. If you come with a smile, a positive attitude, and all your polite words ready to go, you've improved their day, and people reciprocate that kind of thing.
 

thedrewdagg

Well-known member
Waiving the tests is at the discretion of the DMV. He's Canadian, so going to the DMV and politely asking to have the test waived while showing his Canadian license has a decent chance of success. "Excuse me, I heard that you can waive the test because I already have a valid Motorcycle license in Canada. Would you, please?" and, if declined, ask if the supervisor might be willing, along with a sheepish "I just really don't want to take that test. It makes me so nervous!"

Manipulate the situation as much as possible! DMV workers are people who interact with hundreds of other people every day. A lot of the people who come to the DMV are unpleasant and make the employees' jobs harder. If you come with a smile, a positive attitude, and all your polite words ready to go, you've improved their day, and people reciprocate that kind of thing.


I really wish more people would think like this.
 

moto-rama

Well-known member
Thanks Obama

The United States Govt does not write the California Vehicle Code. George Soros writes it in the Comet Pizza basement, when he's not remembering his days as a 11 year old SS member.

And why can't he just take the test?
 
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chai rome

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Back when I took the dmv circle test, the examiner made me do it again because I was going “too fast,”even though I stayed in the lines. That was annoying to hear since I was pretty much off the throttle already but I repeated the course and passed anyway.
Anyway, that was on an SS and took maybe three visits of practice.
 

raymond_h2002

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If you take the test with a bike under 150cc they issue you a m2 license. Not a m1. :nchantr

I don't think the above statement is true.

From the dmv website:
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/?...ent_en/dmv/pubs/dl655/mcycle_htm/requirements

"A motor-driven cycle is a motorcycle with 149 cc or less motor size*. A motor-driven cycle does not include motorized bicycle."
Required License type: M1

It doesn't make sense that testing with a <149cc gets you an M2 when the required license to operate such a bike is an M1.
 

LakeMerrit

*Merritt
M2 is only for a bicycle with a little motor jimmy-rigged on (see east oakland for examples) or a stand up motor scooter like a GoPed or pretty much any scooter (like the ones "plaguing" SF but that has more than 4 hp). Not for motorcycle or a "real" scooter like a ruckus or vespa.
 

benbangui

Well-known member
I don't think the above statement is true.

From the dmv website:
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/?...ent_en/dmv/pubs/dl655/mcycle_htm/requirements

"A motor-driven cycle is a motorcycle with 149 cc or less motor size*. A motor-driven cycle does not include motorized bicycle."
Required License type: M1

It doesn't make sense that testing with a <149cc gets you an M2 when the required license to operate such a bike is an M1.

I was wrong for generalizing yes but the idea is the same...

Class M1-You may operate any two-wheel motorcycle, motor-driven cycle, or motorized scooter and all vehicles listed under Class M2.

Class M2-You may operate any motorized bicycle, moped, or motorized scooter.


if you show up with a moped... that isn't 149cc or more. you will be issued a M2 license.

yes my original statement of over 150cc is incorrect. but the idea is the same... unless your talking about a specific moped (most don't have 149cc in US)

I wasn't listing the rule book, I was making a general statement, you can't take the test with a something under 150cc:ride

I guess I'm stereo typing. most mopeds are made to look like a ruckus or vespa... but I guess that doest mean they are mopeds... my bad


http://https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/motorcycles/motorcycles
 
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lefty

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The United States Govt does not write the California Vehicle Code. George Soros writes it in the Comet Pizza basement, when he's not remembering his days as a 11 year old SS member.

And why can't he just take the test?

:rofl:rofl:rofl:thumbup
 

ScottRNelson

Mr. Dual Sport Rider
It can be done, I did it on my sv650 and people do it all the time. But each parking lot is different and It’s definitely more like a carnival game IMO.
Why is it that you think each DMV parking lot is different? Those circles are 20 feet inside diameter and 24 feet outside diameter. Other than a bit of slope or maybe rough surfaces on some, they're as close to exactly the same as possible.

I've offered my XR650L multiple times when this topic has come up in the past and NOBODY has ever taken me up on the offer. Nobody. It's a moot point now, because I no longer have any motorcycles in California.

I'm also wondering why you think he'll need the bike for a week to practice. Any experienced rider should need less than an hour of practice at the DMV to totally ace the test. When my son-in-law wanted to get his M1 which he had somehow lost after switching licenses in four different states as he kept moving, we went to the local DMV with my XR650L and he practiced. The first time he didn't quite get it. He was able to easily do it the second, third, and fourth times. I made one mistake the first time on my KTM, which doesn't turn as sharply, then easily made it on subsequent runs.

I would suggest heading over there with whatever bike you have (GSX-R??) and making a few tries. Counter lean the bike into the turn, drag the rear brake for control while also feathering the clutch the whole time, and see if maybe it's possible after all. Keep the front wheel just about touching the outer line the whole time.

And maybe search the last half dozen threads on this same subject for additional hints.
 

benbangui

Well-known member
Why is it that you think each DMV parking lot is different? Those circles are 20 feet inside diameter and 24 feet outside diameter. Other than a bit of slope or maybe rough surfaces on some, they're as close to exactly the same as possible.

I've offered my XR650L multiple times when this topic has come up in the past and NOBODY has ever taken me up on the offer. Nobody. It's a moot point now, because I no longer have any motorcycles in California.

I'm also wondering why you think he'll need the bike for a week to practice. Any experienced rider should need less than an hour of practice at the DMV to totally ace the test. When my son-in-law wanted to get his M1 which he had somehow lost after switching licenses in four different states as he kept moving, we went to the local DMV with my XR650L and he practiced. The first time he didn't quite get it. He was able to easily do it the second, third, and fourth times. I made one mistake the first time on my KTM, which doesn't turn as sharply, then easily made it on subsequent runs.

I would suggest heading over there with whatever bike you have (GSX-R??) and making a few tries. Counter lean the bike into the turn, drag the rear brake for control while also feathering the clutch the whole time, and see if maybe it's possible after all. Keep the front wheel just about touching the outer line the whole time.

And maybe search the last half dozen threads on this same subject for additional hints.


I say it’s different because when I was taking my test I practiced at 3 different locations. They where all different. Because parking lots are different. Cracks in pavement are cause my unlevel ground or roots. At slow speeds and in a lean to make turns it can throw you off. Again, not saying it’s impossible. I did it. I’m just saying on a street bike those imperfections at low speed are noticeable and on a cruiser it’s not. On a street bike your leaning on a cruiser you don’t have to or are not. Simple as that :ride

I say a week cause reality of borrowing someone’s bike would be a week. Not that he would need it a week. Just being realistic.

My bike he could use is a cbr1000rr. He is just a “cruiser guy”. Doesn’t like getting on a street bike.
 
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