REMINDER: Political Threads Will End Up In The Political Sub-Forum

[tzrider]

All,

We're seeing a number of political threads beginning to proliferate into the Kitchen sink. Be advised that when we notice this, we will move those threads into the private political sub forum.

For your consideration, here is a definition of the word "politics:"

pol·i·tics

ˈpäləˌtiks

noun

the activities associated with the governance of a country or other area, especially the debate or conflict among individuals or parties having or hoping to achieve power.

"the president's relationship with Congress is vital to American politics"
synonyms: government, affairs of state, public affairs; diplomacy
"a career in politics"

the activities of governments concerning the political relations between countries.

plural noun: politics

"in the conduct of global politics, economic status must be backed by military capacity"

the academic study of government and the state.
"a politics lecturer"

synonyms: political science, civics, statecraft
"she studies politics"

Lastly, we set up a private political forum for a reason. Posting political threads outside of that forum creates work for the people who moderate this site. Posters who repeatedly post political threads in the wrong place may be considered to be abusing the moderator staff.

Please "put stuff where it goes."

 

[Mike95060]

Is this in reference to the Iran thread that I can't seem to find now?

 

[mlm]

Please at least let someone know when you disappear their thread. Might also help to be consistent so it doesn’t just look like a butthurt don’t pick on Trump policy

BTW. I assume it’s fine to post about guns so long as you don’t post any negative opinions right? And I guess discussions on HSR, public pensions, law enforcement policy. They're all OK...because

Guess I'll stick to DickButt...whoops

 

[mean dad]

Yeah, welcome to Trump's new America. Thanks Obama.


Now this is political so it has to go... :laughing

 

[Reli]

Why not just join the politics forum? It ain't difficult, and it ain't going to spam you or anything.

 

[Mike95060]

Why not just join the politics forum? It ain't difficult, and it ain't going to spam you or anything.

Mostly because it is/was a depressing shit show on all sides. Current event topics that don't get invaded by partisan hacks but rather discuss world events belong in the sink IMHO

 

[Reli]

But most of those 'partisan hacks' visit Sink threads too.

Economics, foreign affairs, it's all basically politics

 

[Cyclesuzy]

Why not just join the politics forum? It ain't difficult, and it ain't going to spam you or anything.

+1

 

[ScarySpikes]

But most of those 'partisan hacks' visit Sink threads too.

Economics, foreign affairs, it's all basically politics

I leave all my worst shit posting for the regular KS.

 

[DucatiHoney]

The fact of the matter is that the Politics Forum was move strongly driven by the rest of the membership who didn't want to see discussions on guns, world events, or "whatever" devolve into the poo-flinging contest between people who sided with either party. We're just as happy to throw anything that smacks of Obama or Hilary as we are Trump into the PF.

What y'all might ask yourselves is why you feel the need to discuss guns, world, events, or anything other than motorcycles on a motorcycle forum--not whether you have some self-proclaimed "right" to post up political drivel in the KS. While we love having ya here for all of your online needs, and find it really flattering that you choose BARF as your venue to go into a balls-deep debate about whether pulling out of the Iran deal is a bad idea, we'd be OK having you here just to talk about how much you love your new foot pegs too.

Before everyone gets too excited and starts tossing around accusations of political bias, free speech and other fun things, I recommend you revisit items 1-3 in the BARF Terms of Service.

Synopsis

Bay Area Riders Forum (BARF) was founded in 2002 as an online motorcycle community - a place to share your stories of motorcycling experience with friends, find information, learn from seasoned pros, contact each other to organize rides and activities, and discuss the latest motorcycling news, products and events. It doesn't matter if you simply ride to commute, tear up the twisties or rip it up racing. Maybe stunting is your cup of tea, or perhaps you're addicted to the track or the dirt or both! Adventure riding, touring, or mini bikes might hit your hot button, regardless of your specific interest, this site is for you if you enjoy your bike and, more importantly, you enjoy riding with others.

We focus our attention on group rides, trackdays, racing, training, learning about our passion, social events, and other miscellaneous activities - as well as unbelievable amounts of time online getting to know each other. BARF is not about "us vs. them" - we try to get together with as many other local organizations as we can. Everyone is welcome here, as long as you share that one common interest - MOTORCYCLING!

We strive to provide a moderated environment in which people can interact freely with each other. BARF is more than an online presence, however the rights and responsibilities laid forth in this document govern only the interactions on this website.

 

[mean dad]

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[tzrider]

Please at least let someone know when you disappear their thread. Might also help to be consistent so it doesn’t just look like a butthurt don’t pick on Trump policy

BTW. I assume it’s fine to post about guns so long as you don’t post any negative opinions right? And I guess discussions on HSR, public pensions, law enforcement policy. They're all OK...because

Guess I'll stick to DickButt...whoops

Are you having a hard time distinguishing political topics from other ones? Sometimes we do too.

In the case of your thread the very first post was political; it deals with US policy towards another nation. Pretty clear cut. Some gun threads start out being about guns. They usually devolve into legislation, which either flirts with being political or dives headlong into politics. That's a case where it isn't always black and white.

At no time are threads being moved because anyone disagrees with an opinion.

 

[DucatiHoney]

And none of us is necessarily advocating for no politics. I encourage people to question their motivation for wanting to discuss the topic on a motorcycle forum, however. Think carefully about the possible outcomes when you decide to engage someone about any controversial topic that falls under a heading that isn't related to motos. If getting into an online slap-fight with another rider is your goal here, then posting up anything about Republican or Democratic policy/politicians seems like a good way to accomplish that. I'd rather see you get into a pissing contest over tire pressures or lane sharing strategy--at least that has some relevance for the rest of us here.

 

[bruceflinch]

Yeah, welcome to Trump's new America. Thanks Obama.
Now this is political so it has to go... :laughing

Hooliganistic comment! :laughing

Mostly because it is/was a depressing shit show on all sides. Current event topics that don't get invaded by partisan hacks but rather discuss world events belong in the sink IMHO

I'll respond after this gets moved to the PF. :teeth

 

[Map8]

Mostly because it is/was a depressing shit show on all sides. Current event topics that don't get invaded by partisan hacks but rather discuss world events belong in the sink IMHO

Yup.

I understand that people enjoy a good political jab. We have the Political forum for that kind of give-and-take which can be entertaining. Not everyone feels that way so its best to keep the current events / policy discussion in the Sink the finger-pointing-your-side-vs.-my-side in the Political forum.

There have been many very good and enlightening discussion on current events or policy in the Sink. The BARF brain trust is impressive and brings a lot knowledge and insight which makes for good discussion. Most are capable of expressing an opinion without hyper partisanship or poo flinging.

Edit: Maybe we should change the name of the Political Forum to "Partisan Poo Flingin'" to make it more clear which type of discussion is expected there vs. the Sink?

 

[mlm]

Are you having a hard time distinguishing political topics from other ones? Sometimes we do too.

In the case of your thread the very first post was political; it deals with US policy towards another nation. Pretty clear cut. Some gun threads start out being about guns. They usually devolve into legislation, which either flirts with being political or dives headlong into politics. That's a case where it isn't always black and white.

At no time are threads being moved because anyone disagrees with an opinion.

The judgement isn't even close. I clearly framed the topic as about what to do....not about bitching about what was done. I also referred to a Korea thread that could be interpreted in the same manner, or is it only political if it mentions domestic politics? Also saw a mod comment part way in saying it was an OK discussion of world events and to just keep political shit out which it was for several posts

Why not just join the politics forum? It ain't difficult, and it ain't going to spam you or anything.

I have no desire to participate in a venue predicated as a safe space for partisan hacks and trolls. I'm glad people have a place to fling poo but rather than try and judge it by content why not just do what should have been done in the first place and judge it by behavior.

How about letting people discuss things respectfully and addressing the people who don't. If you did you'd probably find a much more vibrant Sink

As it stands I'm just done starting threads

 

[rodr]

The fact of the matter is that

I hate it when someone starts a sentence with this waste of words. :laughing

What y'all might ask yourselves is why you feel the need to discuss guns, world, events, or anything other than motorcycles on a motorcycle forum

Here's why: I think people who ride motorcycles are special and I find it interesting to hear their take on various topics. More generic forums (where members are not brought together for a common interest) tend to attract people who are on a soap box or are just not all there.

:x

 

[mlm]

Yup.

I understand that people enjoy a good political jab. We have the Political forum for that kind of give-and-take which can be entertaining. Not everyone feels that way so its best to keep the current events / policy discussion in the Sink the finger-pointing-your-side-vs.-my-side in the Political forum.

There have been many very good and enlightening discussion on current events or policy in the Sink. The BARF brain trust is impressive and brings a lot knowledge and insight which makes for good discussion. Most are capable of expressing an opinion without hyper partisanship or poo flinging.

Edit: Maybe we should change the name of the Political Forum to "Partisan Poo Flingin'" to make it more clear which type of discussion is expected there vs. the Sink?

I agree. But BARF chose to value the trolls instead of the topics.

 

[DucatiHoney]

K, brahs. It is what it is. (I suppose that rubs you the wrong way too...) This protocol isn't seriously affecting the quality of your life, and if it is, then congratulations! You have an AWESOME life.

 

[Johndicezx9]

Irregardless...

Thanks mods, your hard work and steady hands are truly appreciated. :thumbup