Registering a bike without a pink slip

Leo_jb

City boy
I know someone out there has done this before. I'm looking at an old Yamaha XT that has no documentation - owner will provide a bill of sale only. Its only worthwhile for me if I can get it registered and plated with DMV. Anyone know the process?

Thx in advance.
 

motomania2007

TC/MSF/CMSP/ Instructor
This can turn into an ugly and very expensive can of worms.

The best advice is to go to the DMV with the Vin number and see if it's in the DMV computer.

If the Vin number is completely absent from the DMV computer then you can probably be successful in getting it registered.

You'll have to go through the VIN verification and turn signal, brake light, horn inspection processes but it's doable.

If it is in the DMV computer, and the registration is past due. You are screwed. Your only option at that point is to pay the past to registration and all the penalties.

That can be many hundreds of dollars.

This is actually pretty funny as I went through this with an old XT several years ago.

Turned out the one I bought was five years late in registration fees.

My solution to it was to register it in Ohio in my dad's name and at my dad's address.

My dad had recently moved to Ohio so it worked.

Then about six months later registered it back in California.

Ohio didn't care about the past due registration fees in California.

And once the Ohio registration was complete, California no longer cared about any past-due registration in California.
 
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motomania2007

TC/MSF/CMSP/ Instructor

byke

Well-known member
If it's out of the system, you just buy it and pretend like it's been yours for years and you have no docs and want to put it on the road again and apply for a new title.
 

timzilla

the 'zilla
If you're worried the bike wont pass VIN verification (like my custom 350), you can hire a private VIN verification party to come and validate the VIN numbers at your residence.

I paid this guy $60 to show up, he didn't look at a single thing on the bike other than to make sure the VIN numbers matched up, did the paperwork, bid me a good day and left.

Bike and new title was successfully registered at DMV a few days later.
 

rwcfrank

Curmudgeon
Byke has the answer, if there truly is no DMV record (and be advised, DMV records have been automated for years and are getting better everyday on pulling up data that was transferred from the old system) Just go into the office and say YOU have had the bike for X number of years and need a new title. Otherwise in can be impossible in some cases.
 

augustiron

2fast 2live 2young 2die
I just did this on 2 bikes that were out of the system. I filled out the title replacement form and a statement of fact. Local dmv did a vin verification, then also told me I needed a chp one. They also called sacramento hq to check for past records while I stood at the counter, none found.
But they also said they are sending it all to sacramento for a double check to finalize the paperwork because there was no record.
I was told sacramento will check the microfiche records on the vin to see if I was indeed the last registered owner as I said I was.
Way way way more of a headache than I was led to believe and it all could still fail.
 

augustiron

2fast 2live 2young 2die
All paper work is done, now I was told to wait 4-6 weeks to see what sacramento says. Hopefully I get plates and titles in the mail. But I am really doubting it happens that way. Ugh.
 
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