Recording the (wind noise free) sound of Ducati

[S21FOLGORE]

youtu.be/Ni2oM3D3BeI


Well, not really a good example (both in editing (video / audio sync) and recording audio), but, still better than wind noise full of audio recorded by camera’s internal mic.

Recording wise, I just have to do some more test, to figure out best gain setting.
(The recorded level was too low (didn’t want exhaust note peaking at wide open throttle)
I placed lav mic in air cleaner box in the first part of the ride.
(I just went to a friend's place (computer repair guy).)
On the way back home, I recorded inside of Wolfman tail pack (but didn't used that part. I wanted to keep the video short.)

Synchronizing audio files and multiple cameras video files was real time consuming, and I really don’t have time for video editing right now.
(Hand crapping for reference point only works when you are shooting short, single file video.
(But, it works well, in that situation.)
When you are NOT riding for video shooting, when you are trying to match audio file to dash-cam footage, you have to take (a lot of) time.)

 

[ScottRNelson]

Don't have any equipment suggestions, but otherwise it will sound better on a good twisty road like Highway 9 or heading up Mount Hamilton than riding on the freeway. Somewhere that you're constantly accelerating and decelerating because of the road rather than to get around traffic.

 

[Maddevill]

Love the sound of a good Duck.

Mad

 

[S21FOLGORE]

Don't have any equipment suggestions, but otherwise it will sound better on a good twisty road like Highway 9 or heading up Mount Hamilton than riding on the freeway. Somewhere that you're constantly accelerating and decelerating because of the road rather than to get around traffic.

Totally agree on the "riding on the twisty would be better" part.

The thing is, I had just about enough time to ride up to Mac Repair in Novato from San Rafael and come back.

Next time, I will test on Lucas Valley Rd or HWY1.

Thank you for suggestions.

 

[DesiDucati]

What’s the best software to use when editing your riding videos?

 

[Shigeta]

I forget the name, but I used to use a plugin years ago for Premiere and Final Cut which would automatically sync multiple audio tracks around a master.

 

[rudolfs001]

I just put a wind sock on my GoPro...works great.

 

[HadesOmega]

Why don't you just ride it on a dyno

 

[S21FOLGORE]

Today, I tried one more time.


youtu.be/YhErmkw9eUI

This time, on the back road near me (Lucas Valley Road, to be precise. Those who live in this area, you know where it is.
Those who don't live around here, this is where Skywalker ranch is located. Yes, George Lucas still owns Skywalker ranch.
And no, Lucas Valley wasn't named after George Lucas.)

I just put Zoom H1n in the tail pack (Wolfman Peak) and recorded today.
Much easier than running lav mic into the air cleaner box.
And, while it's not perfect, it does cut down the wind noise without muffling the exhaust note.

Camera #1
Mobius, permanently mounted on bike as a dash cam. (Powered by the bike's battery, auto on -off. loop recording.)

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Camera #2
Dragon Touch Vista 5

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Audio recorder
Zoom H1n (Gray)
"Gray" version is much cheaper than regular black one.
B&H sells them.

 

[ScottRNelson]

Today, I tried one more time.

That sounds much better than the freeway. Now you need to ride somewhere that you shift gears once in a while and rev it up to 8000 rpms.

Yeah, yeah. Like talking to my dentist, never satisfied, can always do better.

 

[Whammy]

Whammy is impressed.:thumbup
Good on you!:ride:teeth

 

[moderate]

Try putting it in your jacket pocket.

 

[Mellowtonin]

Today, I tried one more time.


youtu.be/YhErmkw9eUI

I see you saw the Schaaf video huh:laughing
The Zoom H1N unfortunately is too basic and very difficult to fine tune to the volume output of your S4R. I had to set mine (old beat up Zoom H2) with Gains below 3 when I had the 1100S Hyperretard to avoid blowing out the audio. But then you can no longer hear the dry clutch clearly during idle, it's always a compromise.

Location wise, after trying maybe 20 different ones: What works best for my setup (depending where your exhaust is mounted) was buying a cheap fanny pack, and turn it around so the mic is behind me on my back (wind noise are blocked by my body, plus I see you have the wind sock already).


youtu.be/qQW_G2htLK0
Dual termi exhaust under seat, about 10 dBA's louder



youtu.be/U760ol0JL6A
Single Le-Vince, right side mounted low, baffle out, about 10 dBA's quieter than above


I hope you make some more, Mike on Bikes has great tutorials on YouTube for filming btw....

 

[S21FOLGORE]

Hi, thanks for suggestions.

Today, I tried ...

Low RPM fly-by


youtu.be/Gr8P2MEugkQ


Pretty simple. (Well, the set up is.)
Just two cameras and one audio recorder.

Doing everything just by yourself requires some getting used to.
(But you will get used to, eventually.)

 

[S21FOLGORE]

So, capturing motorcycle sound is a difficult task, even for the professionals.

Talking about professionals, there's one thing that really bothers me (or, used to bother me) about motorcycle sound in Hollywood films.

Take a look at this. (Terminator 2 : Judgment day 1991)


youtu.be/6z9qws7M8q8


Then, this. (First Blood 1982)


youtu.be/DgnKTP9cnQE

The bike John Connor rode in Terminator 2 was Honda XR80 (and XR100. Yes, two bikes were used. Edward Furlong rode XR80, his stunt double rode XR100 ...)

The bike John Rambo stole was Yamaha XT250.

Both XR and XT are 4-stroke bikes. Why, WHY the Hollywood's sound engineers had to put 2-storke sound in these films?
(That's what I thought, back then.)

 

[ScottRNelson]

Talking about professionals, there's one thing that really bothers me (or, used to bother me) about motorcycle sound in Hollywood films.

Don't forget The Italian Job. They had a Ducati at the beginning and come BMW boxer twins later on that all had four-cylinder engine sounds. :rolleyes