Pulled the trigger on a trackday van

PrincessFalafal

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Late last year I posted a thread asking for advice on building out a cargo van to be a trackday hauler/camper. I got a lot of good ideas from the community, plenty of advice and insight from people who'd done it before and suggested different types of vehicles that might be easier to live with.

All of which I ignored, in favor of buying this monstrosity.

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Last weekend I rode down to LA to pick up my new 2008 E-350, with the 6.8L V-10 engine and 121k miles. It was more than double what I'd initially planned on spending when I started looking into vans, but after four months of searching it was the first one I'd found that was clean and had everything that I wanted. (weirdly the hardest feature to find on these vans was cruise control, but as much as I could compromise on many other things I knew this was something that I HAD to have)

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The Ricon lift in the back is rated for 800lbs, and is the fancy split-folding type that allows you to still see out the back of the van when it's stowed. With a small extension fabricated from an aluminum harbor freight ramp, it should handle lifting track bikes in and out with no issues.

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Being a former mobility transport van, it already has a good solid floor with rows of O-Track embedded which will make anchoring down bikes fast and easy.

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The fold-away seats, while baller, will likely be removed and thrown away (or put onto ebay/craigslist, but I feel like they're too specialty to sell) to make room for more stuff. As it is you can easily fit two bikes in there, but with all the rear seats out three and probably four could be squeezed in.

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While I initially had grand visions of gutting the whole thing and building it out into my dream camper, I blew my entire budget on the vehicle purchase and now have to be very careful about what I spend money on for the build. Aside from pulling out the seats and putting an extension on the ramp, my plan for this season is to go as minimalist as possible for the first few trackdays so I can figure out what it is that I actually need, vs what I just think I need.

Pretty high on the list is a backup camera; try to reverse this thing is like maneuvering a building. After that I'll do some electrical work to add in a house battery or two and a battery isolator, and wire the passenger lights into them and put a switch in the system somewhere so I'm not draining it when I have the doors propped open all day. While a fold-down cot of some kind is in the plans eventually, for now I'll stick with a camping pad and a sleeping bag.

I also have grand visions of a roll-out awning, but given how expensive they are (and how they send a loud signal of HAY THERE'S COOL STUFF IN HERE TO STEAL) I might stick with an EZup like everyone else for now.

Until then, I've also got my work cut out for me getting my track bike back into spec. Hopefully I'll see you guys at Thill or BW late next month once this corollavirus lockdown is lifted. :)
 

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alien
Last fall I did a 1900 mile roadtrip in a van with no cruise control. No cruise sucked but even worse there's zero noise dampening those things.
 

NSR500

すけべ
That's a pretty legit track van as is. I'd probably put an alarm, stereo, and window tint then just leave it be.
 

Enchanter

Ghost in The Machine
Staff member
Congratulations.

I have a 2008 E350 extended van too. Mine is the cargo version with the standard roof and diesel V8.

A back-up camera is definitely a good thing. I don't think that you will ever safely or easily get 4 motorcycles inside. I suppose 3 is possible, but even that's not going to be easy. I have a second row bench seat and regularly carry 2 literbikes. With that load there is no way to add a 3rd. Hell, an ez-up barely fits on the floor too, and I have a little more space than you since I don't have the rear a/c and heater or lift assembly.

Be careful to ensure that whatever you load that it is very secure. If a bike shifts to the side, the handlebars are at window height and can easily shatter one. Also consider a solid means of keeping the motorcycles from coming forward in the unlikely event of a crash. I use a combination of the PittBull rear axle restraints and the securely mounted 2nd row seat.

I placed additional insulation in mine to bring down the noise and to help with the temperature. Get some curtains or window shades to prevent people from looking in.

The headlights are terrible and there isn't a cheap fix for that. They are fine at low speed but just don't illuminate enough for freeway speed, and the highbeams provide barely any additional light. I bought higher power bulbs and they made exactly zero difference. I ended up having the housings rebuilt with HID projectors. Consider having the headlights covered with 3m wrap to prevent them from oxidizing

The cruise control is a known weak point, but the part to fix it is less than $25. It's not easy to get to in my V8 diesel. It may be easier in your V10.

The interior lights are programmed to shut off after 5-10min if you leave the doors open. The headlights do not have the same feature...I made that mistake.

Great source of info here: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/forum128/
 

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NoTraffic

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Awesome pickup, please update on any progress as I have been on the fence on doing something similar. I was considering instead a used Isuzu delivery truck but not too clear if I would need a Class A license for it.

I would prob. insure the air conditioner is running well and possibly upgrade the brake system. Throw in a portable bluetooth speaker instead of having a decked out stereo system to prevent theft.
 

FXCLM5

bombaclaud
I hoping trackday organization will still be around and track fees are not extraordinary high after this pandemic.

Berry nice, will save you from camping tents/mosquitoes
 

PrincessFalafal

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What was your budget ect?

I had hoped to spend $5k for a van and then do a hipster van-life build out, but I couldn't find a decent van (with cruise control) for that. Looked at quite a few, but they all had bad body rot or some kind of mechanical problems.

Last fall I did a 1900 mile roadtrip in a van with no cruise control. No cruise sucked but even worse there's zero noise dampening those things.

You're not kidding about the noise dampening. Today I'm going to see what it takes to pull out some of the interior and install some insulation to cut down on the road noise.

Is the ramp long enough for a bike?

Not quite, but I'll be fabbing a short extension out of a harbor freight ramp or something.

I have a 2008 E350 extended van too. [...] I don't think that you will ever safely or easily get 4 motorcycles inside. [...] Get some curtains or window shades to prevent people from looking in. [...] The interior lights are programmed to shut off after 5-10min if you leave the doors open.

Thanks for all the tips. The plan is to get a wheel chock and modify it to attach to the O-Track in the floor, along with cargo straps to secure the rest of the bike. Realistically I won't be transporting more than 1 motorcycle at a time, although I have thought about offering to haul other BARFer bikes to the track if they want to throw some gas money at me.

Curtains are definitely going to happen, I've been reading some guides on making some using Insul-Shine and dark fabric so that there's a reflective side to keep out the sun on hot days.

I haven't found the headlights too bad? They're oxidized as you'd expect for the age, but I'm going to hit them with one of those DIY restoration kits and see how it goes.

I'll have to verify that about the lights. That might have been modified by the high-top and mobility conversion process.

I would prob. insure the air conditioner is running well and possibly upgrade the brake system. Throw in a portable bluetooth speaker instead of having a decked out stereo system to prevent theft.

A/C works, and starting for this model year (2008) the vans got much larger brakes than in previous years. I'm not a car audio guy, but most of the backup camera options do necessitate a new head unit so I'll probably get one that supports Apple Carplay. Makes it easier to browse through my podcasts on the 2+ hour drive up to THill.
 

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Nice van, Your head will love the hightop. I got this at the end of last year and i'm very happy. Your not going to get 3 liter sized bikes in there without damage. Definitely do some type of divider to protect yourself in a crash/hard stop. I put some sound damping material in the walls and floor which helped a lot, but the divider was night and day difference.
 

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afm199

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Consider getting two Baxley stands and locating them appropriately, with the right side about a foot to the rear of the left. That allows you to roll in the bike, and throw it in the stand and leave it. Then you can strap it down when convenient.

I've got a full size and have tried multiple ways of strapping bikes. A Baxley has bolt down holes and will hold a bike through just about anything short of a rollover. Be sure and use a large flange on the underneath when you bolt it down to distribute the stress.
 

Supa_Hero_RR

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I thought about vans some years ago but went the pickup/trailer route. Like others said... If you crash or stop real hard and those bikes come loose, its going to sting a bit.
 
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gixxerjeff

Dogs best friend
I got this at the end of last year and i'm very happy.

My daughter mentioned this to me Joe!
Congratulations! It's sweet! :party
She saw it when you brought it to opening night. I would've seen it by now but...
I'm happy for you Dude....that's a big step up. So awesome.
 
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