My house flooded in SF today...

Cafe Racer

King of this hill
At appx 2:50pm today a massive storm moved through the City and my house was flooded by the City's failed sewer main that my property is attached to.

The city sewer main backed up in our neighborhood and a force of sewage water came through our homes plumbing system and through the lower level toilet and shower pan and destroyed a portion of our home. We live in the Westwood Park neighborhood.

For over 15 minutes, brackish water back flowed though our home destroying the lower level living space and then through the garage and out the garage door.

We have been displaced. And now I have questions that I hope many of you will have answers.

For the past 10 years we have experienced a back flow of sewage into the bathroom every time the first rains come to San Francisco. I have called the city regarding this issue each time. And they come out to flush the sewer main or inspect it. But it happens again and again each year.

At the end of November we returned home to find water had come into our house through the shower pan. I clean it up.

Two days ago we came home in the evening and once again water had come through the sewer system back into our house. I called the city's 311 helpline and explained the situation. The following morning, Saturday the PUC came to inspect the lines filed a work order to have the sewer lines inspected.

Six hours later on the same day the storm came through and my entire home was flooded with sewage.

We have already contacted our home insurance company. And we filed another claim with the city's 311 help line. The problem continues as it keeps raining. The water continues to flow through our house because the sewer main is still compromised.

Has anyone dealt with the city for issues similar to this?

I can't begin to explain how insignificant any of my efforts were as I tried to battle the force of water entering into my home for over 15 minutes.

Yes, my wife did call 911 and SF Fire did respond. Ironically, I'm also with the San Francisco Fire Department. And I came to realize that there really wasn't anything they could do. I know my coworkers felt bad being unable to assist.

My daughters, 17 and 19 have lost their entire room and much (if not all) of their contents as the bathroom is connected to their room.

The level of damage and contamination to our home is severe. As a family, we are currently displaced until the insurance or… something kicks in.

If you have advice on how to go about this claim against the city please share your thoughts. In addition, several houses on our block that share this sewer main have had flooding problems. It is not an unknown and undocumented issue.

I know there are many jokes that can be made about the "shitty" situation. :-( But at the moment we're dealing with quite a bit of property loss. Especially my teenage daughter's belonging.

I appreciate any advice and help you can offer. I have come to this group several times over the past 15 years and you guys have always pulled through.

Thank you in advance.
 

MysterYvil

Mr. Bad Example
My BIL worked sewers for a municipality. Lawyer up is his advice. Document and record the damages.

Sorry your family has to go through this.

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AbsolutEnduser

Throttle Pusher
Well it was very heavy rain at 2:30, an inch per hour. I saw it.
So the main line must be stuck near you. Is that at lower elevation to adjacent houses?
 
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scootergmc

old and slow
As someone whose crawlspace perks with water every year (right now), I can't imagine what you're going through as my problem pales. However, and I can't stress this enough, document, document, document. Photos. Get an independent inspection if the city has yet to say they're to blame; I'd get my own anyway. A consult with a lawyer may be appropriate at this time. If you do, follow their advice to the letter and ignore BARF.
 

auntiebling

megalomaniacal troglodyte
Staff member
That sounds horrible. I have no words that will help

In addition to contacting lawyers. I would also contact plumbers. Big reputable companies, and ask their opinion on the situation. Whatever happens you can bet that SF will offer the least effective passable solution for the short term. I expect there are measures that can be put in place specifically for your house that will guard against future events, like some kind of anti backflow valve setup.

First google hit, not affiliated etc etc

http://www.balkanplumbing.com/sewer-backflow-valve-preventer-device/
 
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afm199

Well-known member
It's very important, as mentioned, to get a lawyer and to keep rigorous records with photos/videos. There are lawyers who specialize in insurance claims.
 

bikeama

Super Moderator
Staff member
My rental was flooded when a pipe broke, water not sewage. My renter was on vacation and my old neighbor called and said I had water coming out under my front door. Went over and hot water line under the sink had broken. 2" of water everywhere. I called my insurance and the next morning they had Servpro out with a crew.

I was told the sooner they can start the less the loss. Agree with getting a lawyer. If you have the resources you should contact a cleanup service and get started. It is not getting better sitting.


EDIT: It did take months to get all the work done.
 
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Butch

poseur
Staff member
Wow. Sympathy. The BARF hive delivers, methinks.
My roof leaking (Three years old) pales in comparism.

You can keep us posted and we will... count our blessings that most of us are ok.
 

ratsblast

Well-known member
That sucks, get out the wet dry vacuums and fans and have at it. A bit of luck and a lot of hard work.
 

afm199

Well-known member
SF has an interesting problem. As I recall, the storm water from the roofs goes directly to the sewer line. And in the event of a heavy storm, the more likely a backup is. The lines can work fine all year and not handle a heavy storm. Not a blockage, but a design flaw.
 

tuxumino

purrfect
It's very important, as mentioned, to get a lawyer and to keep rigorous records with photos/videos. There are lawyers who specialize in insurance claims.

this

I have friend that was lifting his home in Oakland and EBMUD had an event that flooded out the foundation work he'd just completed. He hired a lawyer that specialized in dealing with EBMUD and broke even, without the lawyer he would have been out of pocket hundreds of thousands.

sorry to hear your situation, my understanding is it will take a year or more to resolve with the right lawyer.
 

Cafe Racer

King of this hill
Thank you everybody. This is good information I can work with.

I have not considered securing an attorney but now I think it's a good idea. Still working with our home owners insurance, "which (adjuster) is not available until Monday"????
In the meantime I can't do anything until it's inspected

Thank you everybody for the help
 

augustiron

2fast 2live 2young 2die
I saw a similar situation tale place in West Portal a few years ago. I have no details, but there were about 6 houses in a row that flooded about 15th at Vicente IIRC and were unoccupied for some time for extensive repairs due to a storm drain issue.

No direct advice except to say there is precedent.

Find a medium term rental (monthly) on airbnb and insurance should cover it. You do not want to live there right now.
Sorry for your loss.
 

KWeezyXB12

SKRRRRRRRRRRRT!!!!!!
Wow. Sympathy. The BARF hive delivers, methinks.
My roof leaking (Three years old) pales in comparism.

You can keep us posted and we will... count our blessings that most of us are ok.

our roof leaked as well. property owner gonna be pissed. just put a new roof on 4 weeks ago
 

budman

General Menace
Staff member
Damn Miguel

So sorry you and your family are dealing with this.
Best wishes for a good resolution. A lawyer sounds like the right call after dealing with this more than once.
 
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