Motorcycle license without drivers license

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PretzelThirst

Canuck
So I did MSF recently and I'm headed to the DMV soon with my form to get my motorcycle license. However, I no longer have a regular drivers license, it expired and I never bothered to renew it since I don't need it. Just wondering if anyone else here has done this and how it went. I ask because of this part of the DMV info found here: http://www.dmv.org/ca-california/motorcycle-license.php


"Additionally, you must complete all the requirements to be eligible for a learner's permit. These include:
Be at least 15 1/2 years old.
Have your parents sign form DL 44.
Submit proof that you have completed both driver's education and driver's training.
Pay the $33 fee."

Drivers ed AND training? For real?
 
revnort

revnort

Tasty Pants
You'll likely just need to renew your license. Since you had one before you passed the requirements, but IIRC the written test has non moto questions as well.
 
Cabrito

Cabrito

cabrón
I'm not seeing where it says you need a drivers license. You just need some proof of who you are.

No Driver License
If you don't have a regular driver license, you must also:
Present an acceptable birth date and legal presence document.
Give the DMV your true full name.
Provide your Social Security number.
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Back in 1981 I got by MC license before I got my Driver license. I didn't even get a drivers license until 1985.
 
ZCrow

ZCrow

Well-known member
You will need to renew it because the motorcycle license is an add on. It should just mean an extra written test. No big thing.
 
dkcwenge

dkcwenge

Mission Peak
you'll find out that having a valid driver's license is more than being able to drive a car. you should get one even if you dont drive.
 
Sharky

Sharky

Well-known member
At 16, I got a moto license before my car one. Pretty sure all the drivers ed stuff is for sub 18 year olds. Since you already had a license you have already passed whatever initial requirements there are.
 
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SimonC

Member
if you had a driver license and it expired sounds like your older then 18, even 21. if over 21 just need MTC course and paper work. And depending on how bad dmv is they might make you do written and observation test in SF. Other places tends to be more lenient from what I heard. Had to do observation because I dont have a drivers license and since yours expired, they might just make you do it too. This was back in August when I did my stuff.
 
rick

rick

Well-known member
I think I did have to take the written driving test as well. I assume this was because that one is a little more "rules of the road" versus the motorcycle test which leans more toward operating a motorcycle.

Without a car for a driving test you'd still only get a motorcycle endorsement (at least back in the day).
 
berth

berth

Well-known member
rick said:
I think I did have to take the written driving test as well. I assume this was because that one is a little more "rules of the road" versus the motorcycle test which leans more toward operating a motorcycle.

Without a car for a driving test you'd still only get a motorcycle endorsement (at least back in the day).
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This is what I did. Take the regular written test, take the motorcycle written test, they then had me "ride around the block, we'll be watching you" for my motorcycle practical test (I'll not I did have to ride the scooter over a 4" fire hose, other than that it was a ride around the block). When I returned, the "tester" was there in the parking lot with a clipboard. I assume, she observed that I returned in one piece and passed me.

When I put in the paper work, the lady said "now, just come back and take your driving test and…" and I said "No, I'm not taking a driving test, I don't own a car.". And she filed it all proper, and I got my M1.

When I later bought my truck, couple years later, they asked for my DL to test drive it. Of course, they didn't notice that it only said "M1" on it, and let me test drive it. While that sale was pending, I took the driving test in a friends car, and that was that.
 
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ToraTora

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rick said:
I think I did have to take the written driving test as well. I assume this was because that one is a little more "rules of the road" versus the motorcycle test which leans more toward operating a motorcycle.

Without a car for a driving test you'd still only get a motorcycle endorsement (at least back in the day).
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Rick is correct. ;)
 
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