S1KGSXR600
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No idea.
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Mick Doohan - The street is not a track
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Onebadscot
SuperMonkey Silverback
I used to be one of those riders who thought he didn't need all the gear. That was till I helped a friend up from a low speed crash, who also did not think he needed all the gear. I don't have to go into detail. I wear all the gear and I don't care how hot I get :2cents
DataDan
Mama says he's bona fide
ATGATT is not a lesson I see in this video. Our protective gear is especially good at reducing track injuries--abrasions, lacerations, and bruises from hitting and sliding on pavement. It's not so good against major street injuries--broken bones, severed limbs, and crushed internal organs from hitting trees, bus benches, phone booths, vehicles, etc., etc.
In fact, the lesson is to limit risk on the street because it isn't a crash-friendly environment like the track.
Cincinnatus
Not-quite retired Army
I'd rather sweat than bleed. :thumbup
Hooli
Big Ugly
Cincinnatus
Not-quite retired Army
ontherearwheel
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Was talking to a friend about a recent track day where there were two helicopter rides do to broken legs.
Not to long ago, there was a racer that went down, got run over in the middle of his back......paralizyed from the waste down........ended up as he put it "ending what the doctors stopped". Meaning he ended his life because he didn't want to live in the state that accident left him.
I really despise the above type statements. Any injury received is all in the luck if the fall and not where you ride or how you ride.
On the street, I've never experinces the below:
Going into Turn 1 at Thunderhill, get ready to turn in, have a guy come up on the inside, park it, taking my line.....all wearing a tutu.
T boned in Turn 11 at Sears in the last race of the year all because I passed someone who didn't like me passing them for 22nd.
Have some pass me into turn 14 at Thunderhill, then park it right in front of me...
I could go on with the experinces I have had on the track that I have never seen on the street.
There is no such thing as a crash friendly enviroment....that's just silly talk. You have no idea what will happen when you go down. I've been down on the street at less then 10 mph..... A speed a lot might consider a safe speed to crash at.......ended losing my spleen. At 10 mph.
I've been down at above fifty......only got a bruise and a minorly squished finger. You know above the speed where head injuries will happen, but I didn't get any.
Anything can happen at anytime....anywhere.
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S1KGSXR600
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Wise words.
DataDan
Mama says he's bona fide
I recently responded to your fatalistic religious belief about "when it's your time, it's your time" in another thread. It's still utterly irrational.
Consider MotoGP. Tracks have spent millions of dollars to create a racing environment with wide runoff areas free of impact hazards like walls, posts, trees, etc. etc., and deaths have been reduced dramatically. There were 9 in the 1970s, 3 in the '80s, none in '90s, 1 in the '00s, and 2 since 2010. What has not been eliminated, is the hazard posed by other vehicles, such as Simoncelli's death and some incidents you mentioned.
Shit does happen. But there's much less that can go wrong at the track than on the street.
Dude, you posted the Doohan video, yet you apparently don't have the slightest fucking idea what its message is. The racing crash video with street-like hazards added isn't supposed to persuade you to wear your gear in case you slide into a bus stop shelter. It's telling you save track speed for the track, where there are no bus stop shelters.
redtail
only ones and zeroes
Uh, well, there are definitely crash unfriendly environments, as evidenced by the Doohan video. Given that, tracks with run off, air fences and gravel traps, are at least more friendly than the street. No?
S1KGSXR600
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Wow, real classy DataDan. Do you have some scientific data to back up that if you crash on the track, your magically unlikely to incur any kinds of injury?
And I have a 'fucking clue' that its safer on a track. But it's still dangerous. Wouldn't you fucking agree?
Its dangerous to crash anywhere. Period. Idiot.
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S1KGSXR600
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You have no fucking idea about things like that, because your a human. So why would you tell people that?
Wheres the scientific data to back up that you control when you die?
No one cares what your beliefs are.
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Lionel Cosgrove
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I think the point he's making is that the track is a controlled environment to a certain degree, unlike public roadways. So if you wad on the track, there's a much lower likelihood of something else, such as a car, tree, or other fixed object causing injury or death. Chill!
UDRider
FLCL?
This one was uncalled for.
S1KGSXR600
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I see, disrespect is fine when it comes from DataDan but when it comes from me its intolerable
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UDRider
FLCL?
Disrespect, really? He might have stated it a bit harshly, and probably mixed your response with Unirr, but I wouldn't go as far as that. He certainly didn't call you names.
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So, after all this you took down the video. You must have had a point in mind when you first posted. What was it?
