Maybe coming to a helmet near you?

[berth]

Saw a post on a new bicycle helmet with a different kind of liner.

Can't see any glaring reason why it couldn't be used in a motorcycle helmet.

https://wavecel.com/

Not in time for me to get a new one, of course. But, if the material is valid, be nice to see it come to motorcycles and other head gear.

 

[NoneMoreBlack]

This appears to be similar to MIPS as used in Bell Helmets as well as the proprietary ODS system used by 6D.

 

[ZCrow]

Exactly. Bell already has it.

 

[NorCal_SV650S]

Actually the technologies in these helmets are not anywhere near the same. The ideas are similar, but some very different!y.
Moto helmets don't have to factor as much ventilation but have to deal with higher speeds and higher possible g loads i believe.
Kudos for Trek for the new bicycle helmet tech. I will buy a new bike helmet for myself , my wife, and my kid ASAP...they aren't cheap But that is some amazing reductions in brain injury damage potential...
But...
MIPS and 6d are great, but not the same...I just bought a Star MIPS as my second helmet...I just hope to never have to use it again...

 

[FourThreeSix]

I would say this is more similar to Bell's FLEX technology than MIPS.

 

[NoneMoreBlack]

Actually the technologies in these helmets are not anywhere near the same. The ideas are similar, but some very different!y.

I would say this is more similar to Bell's FLEX technology than MIPS.

Suffice it to say per the OP, there appear to be multiple competing technologies in this field attempting to solve similar problems, some of which are already available on the retail moto helmet market and others which may be coming in the future.

 

[Schnellbandit]

Improvements are always welcome, however;

is there any info documenting that the current crop of good quality helmets are deficient in protecting against injuries or death considering the small amount of space between the noggin and the helmet shell?

I'm asking because I don't know but just because someone was injured or died from a head impact doesn't mean the tech is deficient but maybe more a function of deceleration from high speed to stop within a short distance that nothing will solve, short of no impact that is.

It's fantastic to see better tech but at some point even without an impact, the sudden decel from high speeds will injure or kill you.

I'd like to see helmets get a lot lighter, face shields adjust to varying light instantly and the industry stop trying to make one or two shell sizes and then fill them up with different cushioning to make them fit everyone.

The rider with a tiny head gets more space between head and shell than Mr. Pumpkin.

Few helmet makers do much more than have a very limited variety of shell sizes. We wouldn't buy boots (or any other stuff like jackets, pants) and fill them with padding to fit but we do it with helmets.

 

[Junkie]

What counts as "deficient"?

Tires get better too. What were excellent tires a couple decades ago aren't anymore. Doesn't mean they were deficient then, but they would be now.

Many manufacturers use more than one or two shell sizes. Bell typically uses 3, as an example.

 

[NorCal_SV650S]

Yes, helmets can protect your brain much better than they currently do...the current SNELL and ECE standards are far too low...
Much like a football helmet, sometimes the focus is too much on physical protection and not enough on the gooey stuff in the middle...

We will never be able to make falling on your head safe, but I’ll take every advancement possible...

The TREK system seems to me to be the most interesting...but the FLEX by Bell seems a bit better than the MIPS, but with no real data or results it just seems like marketing without proof...

 

[Starpower]

The Bell Star series has a whooping 5 helmet sizes and 6 EPS sizes. Plus MIPS and FLEX offerings.

 

[Schnellbandit]

What counts as "deficient"?

Tires get better too. What were excellent tires a couple decades ago aren't anymore. Doesn't mean they were deficient then, but they would be now.

Many manufacturers use more than one or two shell sizes. Bell typically uses 3, as an example.

Like I said, would you buy your boots if they only came in S M L and not in the size you wear but one larger or smaller and just stuff padding to fit?

Deficient means the helmet failed to do what it was supposed to do and because it failed there was injury or death.

If someone got injured and the decel would have caused the injury without impact, that isn't a bad helmet and no helmet could possibly prevent it.

I totally agree with improvements but marketing isn't improvement, its money. Lets see.some real world info like we demand for everything else (it seems).

 

[NoneMoreBlack]

I totally agree with improvements but marketing isn't improvement, its money. Lets see.some real world info like we demand for everything else (it seems).

I agree, the manufacturer websites do a great job explaining the potential danger of rotational and angular impacts, with the obvious conclusion that the only adequate way to mitigate these risks is to purchase their product.

One way to address this in the future might for ECE (or another independent agency) to create a multi-tiered safety rating for helmets as it does for other protective garments. As it currently stands, all the helmet safety ratings are pass/fail, with no way to distinguish between these different technologies.

 

[budman]

That is awesome... the vid was good. Thanks for sharing.

I am just a year or two away from a new lid.
What else will we see??

As a concussed man I certainly appreciate the industry moving forward.