Less than 24 hours after El Paso, 9 dead and 16 wounded in Dayton:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/04/us/dayton-ohio-active-shooter/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/04/us/dayton-ohio-active-shooter/index.html
Thoughts and prayers.....
Wow this is insane :rip :rose
Clearly now festivals, shopping and those going out on the town are in the nutcase playbook along with schools and concerts.
The "solution" will be greater police presence all the time everywhere.
Condolences to family and friends of the innocent victims.
Even the 'more cops' argument falls somewhat flat. The cops in this case clearly saved many lives, but in the minute it took for them to respond the shooter killed 9 and injured 27 more. Are we going to have multiple cops in every building now?
My point about gun free zones is that many of the maniacs chose their targes specifically because they believed their armed oppisition would be in uniform and therefore easy to identify and neutralize. A few have even made that clear.Sure is.
The two most recent shootings took place in shall issue states were people could have been (and in El Paso reportedly were) carrying. No civilian took it upon themselves to shoot back, which isn’t surprising or something they should be expected to do.
But common remarks after shootings like this include “gun free zones” and “that’s why we need shall issue and more guns.” This weekend hasn’t been kind to those arguments.
My point about gun free zones is that many of the maniacs chose their targes specifically because they believed their armed oppisition would be in uniform and therefore easy to identify and neutralize. A few have even made that clear.
I suspect that most armed citizens would not engage in a firefight except under the most extreme circumstances.
When I went in the late 80s they stressed avoiding a firefight whenever possible. It was always portayed as a very last resort. Then again, back then apart from the University of Texas asshole mass shooters were virtually unknown.True. Most people who CCW are protecting their loved ones. Not sure if CCW classes discuss a mass shooter situation. :dunno
Pistol Vs Rifle is scary enough
True. Most people who CCW are protecting their loved ones. Not sure if CCW classes discuss a mass shooter situation. :dunno
Pistol Vs Rifle is scary enough