richierich3888
stunt 101
hi i need keys make for my lexus! i have the valet key only. the key shop said i need to "reflash" my computer! where can i do this for cheap? the person was trying to charge me $400 for two remote keys.
lexus keys
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It's a dealer only item, the keys are coded to your car electronically.
check lexus forums. there are frequently work arounds, some simpler than others it depends what brand of vehicle.
it sounds like there is a chip in the key, that the vehicle must be told is "ok" it's an antitheft feature, but it's also criminal how much dealers charge for what's usually about 10 minutes of work
it sounds like there is a chip in the key, that the vehicle must be told is "ok" it's an antitheft feature, but it's also criminal how much dealers charge for what's usually about 10 minutes of work
nine_inch_rear
Well-known member
Suck it up... thats the going rate for having the keys programed. Be glad you dont have a VW- 600$ for those:rolleyes
Kornholio
:wave
What the hell are you smoking? I've never paid more than $50 for new keys for any VW I've ever owned.
Desmodromic
Captain Slow
New keys = cpu encoding = $$$
Yakoo752
USN
fixed
reckon
the cake is a lie
if it's a TRANSPONDER KEY: it has a tiny transmitter IN the key that sends a signal to THAT SPECIFIC BIKE's/CAR's central computer,...then NO, no workarounds (unless you exchange the key, AND EEPROM, AND CPU, then re-flash), or easy fixes,...and they keys cost what they cost, because YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE STEALERSHIP TO GET A NEW KEY,, then they have to do the re-flash......so you get $$$ raped,.........mercedes charges about $550-$1500 for lost key replacements (some get that covered in the "add-on" warranty), ford charges $250-$750 (depending on vehicle)and pretty much all cars that have TRANSPONDER keys, the replacement cost is ridiculous, simply because you can't go anywhere else to get a replacement key, and they have to re-program the vehicle to work with the new key
the good news is that the ONLY way to steal a car/bike with transponder key security system is to TOW IT, then deal with the transponder key, and re-flash,..which is a HARDWARE replacement (they have to swap out the eeprom/key/CPU, then flash), and not just "plug it in and re-flash",......so it's tough to pull off, not something your average meth head bike thief will be able to do, unless they just strip it. (which I'm sure is what happens to most stolens)
so it's a great deal, until you lose or damage the key/cylinder.
the good news is that the ONLY way to steal a car/bike with transponder key security system is to TOW IT, then deal with the transponder key, and re-flash,..which is a HARDWARE replacement (they have to swap out the eeprom/key/CPU, then flash), and not just "plug it in and re-flash",......so it's tough to pull off, not something your average meth head bike thief will be able to do, unless they just strip it. (which I'm sure is what happens to most stolens)
so it's a great deal, until you lose or damage the key/cylinder.
nine_inch_rear
Well-known member
Your paying for the equipment, not all the time it takes. Same reason a check engine light diagnosis is 150$ when its the fuel cap that isnt tightened.
FZRMOVSTAR
Member
lexus keys...
Hello, depending on year and model of vehicle...you may be able to buy a new master key if the key you have was programmed as a master key even though it is a velet key??? Give me more info on your car and I may be able to help you...
Hello, depending on year and model of vehicle...you may be able to buy a new master key if the key you have was programmed as a master key even though it is a velet key??? Give me more info on your car and I may be able to help you...
itsmrjames
try again fucker
call up some lexus dealers. I had them hook me up with a new key for 60$. no transponder but it worked. I just needed title and matching id to verify. They cut it with a computer coded jammi..
What the hell are you smoking? I've never paid more than $50 for new keys for any VW I've ever owned.
I paid $10.00 bucks but you'll need a valet key to program the new key
ExtrF4i
Well-known member
Keys are usually around $100 - $150. Often, you can find the instructions on-line on programming the key yourself. In my case with my Toyota, it was a long sequence of turning the key to AC, un-locking to door with the power door lock,turning the key again,etc, etc till the sequence was complete. Depends on the car/model. Looks like with Lexus you might be stuck with the stealership................http://www.clublexus.com/forums/nor...-smart-key-reprogramming-in-the-bay-area.html
Kornholio
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KeyMan
Ask me about making keys
There is some accurate information and some misinformation here, go figure....
There are only a handful of vehicles that are dealer only.
Clone keys are available for many cars so long as you have a working key to clone.
Lexus and Toyota keys depend on the year and model. There are many of them that do require a reflash. However, the dealer is the most expensive place to go for this. The remote head blanks are expensive. Most lock shops are reluctant to cut a Lexus blank purchased elsewhere. Some of them are known to damage expensive cutters.
Mercedes uses the most advance rolling code transponder system I know of. It's a dealer only system. BMW is not far behind but they can be done. The problem is finding someone who can do it. I may buy the programmer one day but not for a long time. Mini, Volvo, Saab and a few others are essentially dealer only although there are a few locksmiths who have the skills and equipment. If you have one of these vehicles I suggest you bite the bullet and go to your favorite dealer.
I specialize in VW, among other things. I drive a TDI so I have a vested interest. VW requires specialized knowledge and equipment. VW keys can not be programmed without some type of programmer. Programmers can be quite expensive. VW keys can be very expensive. The most expensive VW keys I have come across are for the Eurovan and for the Cabrio.
Most cars have some way to do on board programming but you will need at least one master key and often two master keys to do that on most of them. GM is basically the only company that makes cars that can programmed without equipment regardless of how many keys you don't have.
I own a lock and key shop. We stock many transponder keys and some remote head keys. What we don't have we can get. We will shoot you straight and tell you the options we can provide and the pitfalls you may encounter. We are a local business that that provides an honest living for our people so please don't ask us to compete with eBay sellers or other internet sources. They will often give you misinformation just to make a sale. We have the knowledge and equipment to do the programming and cut the keys correctly. If the programming can be done without equipment we will help you with that as well. Stop in sometime and say hi to DJ Nick. You can PM him or email me for more information.
I will not post contact info at this time because I am here primarily to educate. If you want to know more about the services we provide please contact Nick or I.
You may also want to visit your local lock shop. Many of them do not know much about this technology so don't be discouraged if someone tells you your vehicle is a dealer only vehicle. Unless you own a European car, chances are you can get a less expensive key from a lock shop than you can from the dealer.
If you own a Ducati that is transponder equipped do not wait until you lose your last key. An extra key is expensive but if you don't have a key you will very likely be purchasing a new ECU. I believe the ECU cost is about two and half thousand dollars.
There are only a handful of vehicles that are dealer only.
Clone keys are available for many cars so long as you have a working key to clone.
Lexus and Toyota keys depend on the year and model. There are many of them that do require a reflash. However, the dealer is the most expensive place to go for this. The remote head blanks are expensive. Most lock shops are reluctant to cut a Lexus blank purchased elsewhere. Some of them are known to damage expensive cutters.
Mercedes uses the most advance rolling code transponder system I know of. It's a dealer only system. BMW is not far behind but they can be done. The problem is finding someone who can do it. I may buy the programmer one day but not for a long time. Mini, Volvo, Saab and a few others are essentially dealer only although there are a few locksmiths who have the skills and equipment. If you have one of these vehicles I suggest you bite the bullet and go to your favorite dealer.
I specialize in VW, among other things. I drive a TDI so I have a vested interest. VW requires specialized knowledge and equipment. VW keys can not be programmed without some type of programmer. Programmers can be quite expensive. VW keys can be very expensive. The most expensive VW keys I have come across are for the Eurovan and for the Cabrio.
Most cars have some way to do on board programming but you will need at least one master key and often two master keys to do that on most of them. GM is basically the only company that makes cars that can programmed without equipment regardless of how many keys you don't have.
I own a lock and key shop. We stock many transponder keys and some remote head keys. What we don't have we can get. We will shoot you straight and tell you the options we can provide and the pitfalls you may encounter. We are a local business that that provides an honest living for our people so please don't ask us to compete with eBay sellers or other internet sources. They will often give you misinformation just to make a sale. We have the knowledge and equipment to do the programming and cut the keys correctly. If the programming can be done without equipment we will help you with that as well. Stop in sometime and say hi to DJ Nick. You can PM him or email me for more information.
I will not post contact info at this time because I am here primarily to educate. If you want to know more about the services we provide please contact Nick or I.
You may also want to visit your local lock shop. Many of them do not know much about this technology so don't be discouraged if someone tells you your vehicle is a dealer only vehicle. Unless you own a European car, chances are you can get a less expensive key from a lock shop than you can from the dealer.
If you own a Ducati that is transponder equipped do not wait until you lose your last key. An extra key is expensive but if you don't have a key you will very likely be purchasing a new ECU. I believe the ECU cost is about two and half thousand dollars.
DJNick
Oldschool
:thumbup
KeyMan
Ask me about making keys
I know this is a late response but I'll post it anyway, in case someone stumbles on to this thread.
All VW transponder keys require two thing to program, diagnostic equipment or software and a PIN code. You can program the remote using two keys but you can not program a key to start the car. This began in Europe in 1994 and here in the US in 2000. Some 2000 VWs will not need to be programmed, others will.