Maddevill
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Hey my "kegger" ain't THAT big.....yet.
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My girlfriend's kids are just about to take the course. I know the law changed since we took it two years ago. Do they need to get their learner's permit (take the written test) before taking the CMSP class? Does it matter how old you are in this regard?
Thanks.
Here's how it worked for me. Took the 2-day CMSP course in September 2016, passed their written test (longer and harder than the DMV's test, but doesn't count toward a DMV waiver) but failed their riding test. They gave me two months from that day to come back to retake and pass it for free (and not have to retake the course, just show up for the test).
After that, you have to pay $139 to retake the riding test. I didn't have a bike so I eventually got one, but was not confident enough to ride the 30 minutes over the range to retake the test. Lost my free two-month window.
So I studied for the DMV written test, went down there (be advised you ALSO have to take the DMV written test for cars at the same time), paid them $33 and passed it. Phew. That gave me a learner's permit for a year. A learner's permit has restrictions: no freeways, passengers or night riding.
The DMV riding test is much harder than the CMSP test. I practiced, scheduled my DMV riding test, and failed.
Now I have two more tries at that DMV riding test (be prepared to be there for a few hours, even with an appointment) within my one-year learner's permit window to get my M1 endorsement. If I fail two more times, I have to retake the written test. The first riding test was free, next time I have to pay $7. Reasonable!
One last thing: CMSP will NOT give anyone a certificate stating you took their course UNLESS you pass the riding test. Meaning I cannot prove I even took that 20-hour course because I failed their riding test by one point. This annoys me only slightly less than having to deal with the DMV at this point.
Let me know if you have any other questions! I'm becoming a reluctant expert! I hope your GF's kids do well.
One last thing: CMSP will NOT give anyone a certificate stating you took their course UNLESS you pass the riding test. Meaning I cannot prove I even took that 20-hour course because I failed their riding test by one point. This annoys me only slightly less than having to deal with the DMV at this point.
Let me know if you have any other questions! I'm becoming a reluctant expert! I hope your GF's kids do well.
You may want to check with your insurance if you get a discount for completing the course. It may be worth it. Also got me a discount at Cycle Gear.
but... they didn't complete the course if they failed.
When I finished the class our instructor made a point to say, "We are now qualified to operate a motorcycle at 15 mph in a parking lot."
Hi,
I recently passed the California motorcycle safety training successfully as well as the knowledge test for M1 license at the DMV, thus getting my motorcycle license.
I own a Honda CBR 500R.
However, I have no practice on motorcycles apart from the motorcycle safety training and therefore I need coaching to learn to ride my Honda safely and comfortably.
Can you recommend a motorcycle instructor to me who could be available to give me a few riding lessons in Palo Alto?
Thanks,
Alec
Perhaps mandate that they be made aware, in explicit terms, of the dangers of what they are choosing to do when riding. But don't mandate that these courses be required for absolutely everyone. We can't put everyone in a bubble, we can't make everyone safer, and we can't even pretend that what we're doing to try and make them safer is actually working for everyone...nor should we. I suppose it really just comes down to a "freedom" argument in the end.