JoJo Siwa comes out

bojangle

FN # 40
Staff member
Whoever she is, she got a bunch of motorcycle forum nerds talking about her, so there's that. :)

Funny how some celebrities are all about privacy and others over-share this stuff. I personally see this as an attention grab, but if she's some kind of role model and it helps someone else be more comfortable being who they are, great.

This! It is the point. She's a celebrity, or sorts. This was an intentional move on her part to generate interest. No publicity is bad publicity. She's 17. She probably knows her days doing her current shtick of playing an 11-year-old type persona are numbered.
 

TylerW

Agitator
There is something weirdly routine about famous youthful stars very publicly experimenting with gender with a ton of fol-de-rol accompanying it.

You wanna congrat JoJo? Fine. But it's probably a lot harder for some kid in Nowhere Neb to do so. If JoJo/Miley/whomever's declarations help it be easier for the nobody, I guess its a positive.

I don't know who JoJo is, but I'm happy that she's declaring herself and making a more comfortable place in the world for her to be herself. But that's not what's really at stake here.

People look up to her, and when she publicly comes out like this, it's just one more thing that gives other young people the courage to explore their own identity, and their own desires, and maybe come out themselves instead of conforming and living a life of disappointing denial.

That's a very good thing.
 

tuxumino

purrfect
thanks everyone for the kind words, yes I know it's not appropriate for a 59 year old American male to even be aware of JoJo Siwa let alone wear one of her bows on his California Conservation Corps hat, but I often wonder off in it to areas I shouldn't.

JoJo coming out does seem to be a possible career move but I think it's genuine but I can see it getting in some peoples craw.

A couple of years I went to a birthday party for 3 people: one in her early 30's, one in his mid 50s and one her mid 70s. A very conservative couple brought their 7 year old daughter and she had cat ears on. I asked her mother if she had heard Learn to Meow. a Chinese pop tune and sang the fairly distinctive chorus for her. she Immediately recognized it and said she thought her daughter and friends sounded like they were singing in Chinese, well that's cus they were. I asked the little girl if she had any JoJo's bows and she confirmed she did.

So I went to a party and had the most in common with a 7 year old girl,
awkward to say the least.

JoJo has seemed to push the girl power angle, which isn't a problem for me, in fact I approve of it.

you kind of see JoJo leaning toward the way she seems headed in this video.


youtu.be/yFvyEgMw6sc

so does anyone want to discuss the Haschak sisters?


youtu.be/vdTlMwgMOpo
 

TylerW

Agitator
my friends don't define themselves by their sexuality.

Very few people do - though I met a woman last year who very much did. It was always hilarious watching her meet new people and counting how many minutes she'd wait before telling the new person that she is a "gold star lesbian" or about the last person she had sex with.
 

HappyHighwayman

Warning: Do Not Engage
Good discussion thank you all.

I want to be able to ask questions without being seen as offensive....I usually wait until we're friends before I ask people such things. My new roommate is my 3rd gay roommate, first lady though, and frankly...they've been the best roommates I've had lol.

- The guys don't hit on my ladyfriends, in fact one became one of his BFFs and he moved into her building
- So far the two dudes have been obsessively clean
- The lady doesn't have dudes hanging around my place
- There will never be sexual tension between us
 

Blankpage

alien
Good discussion thank you all.

I want to be able to ask questions without being seen as offensive....I usually wait until we're friends before I ask people such things. My new roommate is my 3rd gay roommate, first lady though, and frankly...they've been the best roommates I've had lol.

- The guys don't hit on my ladyfriends, in fact one became one of his BFFs and he moved into her building
- So far the two dudes have been obsessively clean
- The lady doesn't have dudes hanging around my place
- There will never be sexual tension between us

Maybe was a problem for your last roommates, couldn’t handle seeing you strut around in your skinny jeans and not have some of that.
 

HappyHighwayman

Warning: Do Not Engage
Nah I just realized I was gonna die if I didn't start exercising.
I've been hit on a few times but gay guys I just find it very flattering.
 

HappyHighwayman

Warning: Do Not Engage
She's since clarified she now has a girlfriend, so at least it's not some vague claim at this point. I retract any negative comments.
 

DucatiHoney

Administrator
Staff member
She's since clarified she now has a girlfriend, so at least it's not some vague claim at this point. I retract any negative comments.

I'm always impressed by people who can say they were wrong sincerely. Tough to do! I'm working on trying to do that more often myself.

Back to JoJo - I keep wanting to channel my inner Stephen Wright to attempt some universal balance. I don't dislike her, but I keep thinking, what is she like when she's cleaning the toilet? Is there essential oils and glitter involved? :laughing
 

tuxumino

purrfect
one of the things to understand about JoJo is she's been involved with not only the growth of herself as an artist but the growth of herself as a brand.


https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/jojo-siwa-glitter-covered-empire-849071/

The first time Nickelodeon wanted to have a meeting, they asked Jessalynn to come without JoJo. The duo have vowed for full business transparency, meaning that no meetings are taken without both mom and daughter present. “We have a policy: There’s no secrets,” Jessalyn says. “I was like, ‘No, we’re not going. That’s not how we do it.’” The booksmart pop star has educated herself on how her brand evolves and where her money goes, taking personal finance classes.

As Kaufman recalls of that first meeting, JoJo sat at the head of the table, taking photos of each slide. The teenager even went to London to meet with Nickelodeon’s trend team, an in-house collective that keeps the network up to date on its audience’s taste, to “refine and define her look.” She actively works with Nickelodeon’s in-house stylist Arturo Chavez on creating each custom outfit, which in turn is translated to the JoJo’s Closet line for Target so that her fans can look like her.

“She’s been in every business conversation since day one,” Kaufman says. It’s been a new way of working with a Nickelodeon star, but the network has also never had a live person achieve this level of consumer-product success. “She’s extremely involved in the design. She wants to understand why one T-shirt sold better than another. She wants to understand how her products are being distributed across retail [and] how it’s being promoted.”
 
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