Idiot crashers that don't move to the shoulder, tickets?

Ozymandias

Well-known member
This may be an asked and answered but I couldn't find much in a brief search. This morning I was on my way to work on 680 southbound in Walnut Creek some guy rearended 2 cars in the commuter lane and instead of doing the smart thing and moving to the shoulder they were out and walking around their cars right in the middle of the commuter lane. Of course traffic becomes stop and go while people try to figure out how ot merge and apparently there was at least 1 secondary that happened by the time I got to work from inattentive driving.

Sadly this is far from uncommon and there's even alerts on the Amber Alert signs saying to pull to the shoulder yet these idiots keep doing it. :mad. My question is, do you guys write tickets for that shit if you roll up on it to make them move? I certainly hope so and I hope it's expensive! Stupid should hurt. :x. It's one thing if you can't move, another if you've got a dented bumper valence.
 

Lucky13xx

Well-known member
If it steers, it clears?

If you can turn it over, pull it over?

Please LEOs tell me that you are educating the public on this one with enforcement
 

SLOWREX03

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ive never written a ticket for it and i dont think i ever would. i cant think of a VC section off the top of my head that would have a chance of holding up in court. plus, if there are any injuries, i dont want the vehicles to move so that i can document their positions of rest after the crash.
 

NorCalBusa

Member #294
Sounds suspiciously like a Guideline and not a law- surprising the guy who flipped out on the lane splitting guidelines hasn't been all over this.
 

Ozymandias

Well-known member
I always thought it fell under obstructing traffic. I can see not moving if there is an injury but when peoe are standing in the #1 lane exchaning info... Just seems like unsafe behavior for themselves by secondaries hitting them and just the in general PITA to everyone else trying to get somewhere.

That's the gist of why I was asking... And if there was a law or whatever. :thumbup
 

JSGrind

Well-known member
Yea these people always do this crap. I can understand if major injury but most people seem to want to stay in one place because they think that that will prove they were not the cause of the accident.
 

Junkie

gone for now
I know I've seen signs (black and white) saying to move to the shoulder if in a no-injury collision.
 

bojangle

FN # 40
Staff member
This may be an asked and answered but I couldn't find much in a brief search. This morning I was on my way to work on 680 southbound in Walnut Creek some guy rearended 2 cars in the commuter lane and instead of doing the smart thing and moving to the shoulder they were out and walking around their cars right in the middle of the commuter lane. Of course traffic becomes stop and go while people try to figure out how ot merge and apparently there was at least 1 secondary that happened by the time I got to work from inattentive driving.

Sadly this is far from uncommon and there's even alerts on the Amber Alert signs saying to pull to the shoulder yet these idiots keep doing it. :mad. My question is, do you guys write tickets for that shit if you roll up on it to make them move? I certainly hope so and I hope it's expensive! Stupid should hurt. :x. It's one thing if you can't move, another if you've got a dented bumper valence.

If it steers, it clears?

If you can turn it over, pull it over?

Please LEOs tell me that you are educating the public on this one with enforcement

Nope!

I don't take crashes on freeways though. But plenty of times people won't move vehicles blocking city streets when they can and there's no injuries. The first thing I do when I get on scene, after assessing and inquiring about injuries, is seeing if we can get the vehicles moved.

Many people don't know what to do. They think it's better to leave them in place... Sometimes it is. Most people don't crash very often, so they are usually shaken up, etc. I've never seen a LEO cite for anything related to vehicles blocking after a collision. It wouldn't go over too well in court.
 

9integra2

Well-known member
Spirit of the law vs. letter of the law

Heres the letter of the law...

20002. (a) The driver of any vehicle involved in an accident resulting only in damage to any property, including vehicles, shall immediately stop the vehicle at the nearest location that will not impede traffic or otherwise jeopardize the safety of other motorists.

And if this section doesnt ring a bell, its the misdemeanor hit and run section. No way will this ever get prosecuted though. Its just one of those things where you cant cite and prosecute for being stupid. And lets face it, we all have a cousin, grandma, sister or someone that will most likely block lanes when they get in a fender bender. Then people will come on barf and say the cop went overboard. As if getting in an accident wasnt bad enough.
 
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Bootworks

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Biggest back-up always seem caused by rubber-neck'rs. I just fold my barend mirrors and thank my lucky star I'm in California!
 
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packnrat

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ALL new cars have a fuel shut off switch it is activated when rear ended or if side impact reaches a specific G force.

thus car can not move under its own power.
need a computer is needed to reactavate the fuel pump.
 

Lorry

Well-known member
I wonder if people think there's less chance of hit 'n run if they deal with it where the cars are sitting?
 
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