Gas tax increasing vlf etc

[Whammy]

I said it months ago.
Mooonbeam is asking for raise of the gas tax another 12 cents a gallon, vlf increases.
For those with electric vehicles you aren't immune.

Gov. Jerry Brown proposed raising $52 billion to fix roads through an increase in gas taxes along with higher car registration fees and a $100 charge on emission-free vehicles.
http://abc7news.com/search/?query=gas+tax


This is what happens when you mismanage the tax payers money and build bike lanes and horse trails amongst other things.

Talk amongst yourselves:wtf

 

[ColdOnes]

"This is what happens when you mismanage the tax payers money and build bike lanes and horse trails amongst other things."

What about the most overpriced useless train to Victorville?

 

[Butch]

I just got some stuff from the AMA about S.B. 1 and it could be alarming.

What do you guys know?

 

[Whammy]

yea the useless train too

"This is what happens when you mismanage the tax payers money and build bike lanes and horse trails amongst other things."

What about the most overpriced useless train to Victorville?

Yea that debacle they call high speed rail.
Total waste of money.

 

[Aware]

Roads are a mess.

 

[ctwo]

If you want roads and police and whatever else the gov is supposed to provide you gotta pay for it.

more taxes

there should be more fees too...

 

[mrzuzzo]

If you want roads and police and whatever else the gov is supposed to provide you gotta pay for it.

more taxes

there should be more fees too...

If only the money we paid actually went to these things... And these things were properly managed.

 

[Whammy]

dont know anything yet butch

I just got some stuff from the AMA about S.B. 1 and it could be alarming.

What do you guys know?

I'm reading the Bill and its more of the same same.
They'll still be able to move money from highways to the general fund for shortfalls in other areas.


Yes we need roads, it has to be paid for.

However when you divert highway funds to the general fund to pay for other things your forgot to included in the budget.
That's just irresponsible.
Lets not forget Gray Davis.

 

[rsrider]

I spend most of my time nowadays plotting my escape from CA.

 

[KooLaid]

"Republican lawmakers are against the hike. They argue Californians already pay enough."

Stupid republicans, what do they know? Double it, and raise the tax an extra 25 cents per gallon and raise registration fees an extra 50% or more on all vehicles. Raise the electric car fee to $250 in 2020. My electric car lease ends December 2019 anyways lol. I'm told all the time that California is the richest state in the union and compared to the rest of the world, 6th richest economy. No biggy, tax away Jerry.

 

[Hazardous Waste]

I spend most of my time nowadays plotting my escape from CA.

LOL, That's my plan

 

[Not Karl Malden]

What Jerry conveniently doesn't mention is CalPERS is $175 billion in the red. It needs to draw an annual return of 11% to be sustainable, but is only pulling 2.4% through ridiculously political investments. More taxes for roads just makes the sleight of hand easier to reallocate money to pay forward the obligations. If you're super wealthy you don't care about the balance sheet shenanigans. If you're an ordinary working stiff this is just more BOHICA courtesy of Sacramento.

 

[Whammy]

wait theres more

What Jerry conveniently doesn't mention is CalPERS is $175 billion in the red. It needs to draw an annual return of 11% to be sustainable, but is only pulling 2.4% through ridiculously political investments. More taxes for roads just makes the sleight of hand easier to reallocate money to pay forward the obligations. If you're super wealthy you don't care about the balance sheet shenanigans. If you're an ordinary working stiff this is just more BOHICA courtesy of Sacramento.

What about calstrs?

Equally in deep Sh*t too.
Shortcomings everywhere.

 

[bergmen]

Maybe it's time for horses to come back as the preferred commute "vehicle".

Dan

 

[Whammy]

how about skateboards?

Maybe it's time for horses to come back as the preferred commute "vehicle".

Dan

Horses, skateboards, tricycles... that would be fun.
Not going to mention bicycles because there are a hell of a lot of people who cant ride a bike.

Whammy to is planning an escape from this madness.
:teeth

 

[redtail]

Yeah, and the last time a governor significantly raised VLF, we ended up with Arnie. WTF are ya gonna do....

 

[planegray]

If only the money we paid actually went to these things... And these things were properly managed.

What Jerry conveniently doesn't mention is CalPERS is $175 billion in the red. It needs to draw an annual return of 11% to be sustainable, but is only pulling 2.4% through ridiculously political investments. More taxes for roads just makes the sleight of hand easier to reallocate money to pay forward the obligations. If you're super wealthy you don't care about the balance sheet shenanigans. If you're an ordinary working stiff this is just more BOHICA courtesy of Sacramento.

+1 to these things :thumbup

 

[mototireguy]

Let me tell you how it will be
There's one for you, nineteen for me
'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman
Should five per cent appear too small
Be thankful I don't take it all
'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah I'm the taxman
If you drive a car, I'll tax the street,
If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat.
If you get too cold I'll tax the heat,
If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet.
Don't ask me what I want it for
If you don't want to pay some more
'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman
Now my advice for those who die
Declare the pennies on your eyes
'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman
And you're working for no one but me.

 

[thedub]

Horses, skateboards, tricycles... that would be fun.
Not going to mention bicycles because there are a hell of a lot of people who cant ride a bike.

Whammy to is planning an escape from this madness.
:teeth

Do you know that you don't have to enter a new subject in the Title box each time you make a reply in a thread? You can just type what you want to say in the Message box and we all know what the subject is already.

 

[CDONA]

Good ol' Grey, got himself bumped for increasing registrations. The popo & fire guys hand wringing about the loss of that tax increase.

If only those agencies had to pay civilian fees for their vehicles they wouldn't be for it. Or, , ,

E- plates for everyone.

Isn't gas taxes up around 35 cents a gallon now, but needs to be close to 50 cents?