duke 2 versus 640 versus husky 450smr

evermore

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Any thoughts? I think it'll come down to a choice between the first two for me (huskys are very hard to find).

I have not really gotten a satisfying answer as to what the weight difference between a duke 2 and a ktm 640 is...

Thanks!

mike
 

evermore

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Mostly twisties, some city/bay bridge commute. I dont think racing will be in my future but taking it off road (only with 640 and have a second set of wheels) might be a consideration..
 

SennaSixty8

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If you truly wanna use it for a 'lil' off roading, then get the 640, otherwise, the Duke2 is NOT good for anything other than pavement and the occasional dirt road/driveway/access road. It has less travel and alloy wheels that ding waay to easy! The Husky is an awesome narrow focus machine that belongs in the city or the track...you wont like it too much on the BayBridge or any other fwy...but that 100th anniversary SMC is a GREAT bike, nonetheless:teeth
 

evermore

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well offroading is something I "might" consider on the 640 or the 450 but not on the Duke 2. I really just want to get a bike that's as light and powerful as possible. The 640 and the duke 2 share the same engine so based on that, I'd probably go with the lighter bike.. (unless it's just 10-20lbs)...
 

FTC

keepin you lit
get the husky if youre gonna race or keep it off the freeways.
get the 640 or 625 smc for street/freeway/enduro/ and occasional track time.
get the duke for a street bike.
 

GetaGripGreg

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Duke.

Duke Duke Duke Duke Duke.....












Opps, sorry, just fantasizing about riding my Duke II.

Soon, baby, soon. :teeth
 

westie

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My duke 2 is 330 lbs. Pretty heavy for anything other than street. Still funner than shit...
 

Peter

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I have a Duke and a Husky and pretty much agree with what's been said here. For highway commuting you're probably better off with either of the KTMs. The duke is probably a good 20-30 lbs heavier than the LC4 SM. The husky is a great bike but its not designed or intended for freeway use. Its a race bike. As someone mentioned earlier, its pretty narrowly focused.
 

evermore

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All this points me towards a 640 it seems (which is what I've been leaning towards to). Are there any other bikes like the 640 I should consider? For example, I see FTC has a ktm 625 sxc... ?
 

FTC

keepin you lit
look for the 625 smc. its better. comes in supermoto form, all set up with wheels, lower suspension, comes with dirt wheels also.
 

zefflyn

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FTC said:
look for the 625 smc. its better. comes in supermoto form, all set up with wheels, lower suspension, comes with dirt wheels also.

The 625 comes with 4 wheels?

Does it come with the Supermoto suspension, or the dual-sport suspension?
 

mightslip

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how does the xr650 fit in with these bikes?? i know it's bullet proof...and most of the others <ktm need a lot of attention to valves...but ridability? im thinking of breaking down and buying one but i mostly want it for alices/goat trialing/ect..
 

zefflyn

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Depends on which XR650 you're talking about (L or R). The L is a roughly 14 year old dual sport, the R is a brand new dirtbike design, while the 625lc4 is a revamp of the 4 or 5 year old 620 LC4 engine, which had been evolving all through the 90's.

The LC4 has the benefit of being a really well integrated design. I went with it because it was the only dual sport where the taillights and blinkers and stuff were all designed with the bike, rather than the huge stick-on stuff the Japs had. With the XR-R, you'll be putting that stuff on yourself, but riding a dirtbike on the road, so will have to make lots of mods depending on if you like comfort or decent lighting, and you'd better like kick-starting - I'd never go without, due to how I sometimes kill it at stoplights.


michaeln has had both the L and a LC4, so perhaps he'll weigh in with the expert opinion.
 

michaeln

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zefflyn said:
michaeln has had both the L and a LC4, so perhaps he'll weigh in with the expert opinion.

Having had both, I prefer my XR650L. I like the suspension better (the KTM was really harsh), my upgraded brakes are just as good as the KTM's, and the bike is far more comfortable.

I can also ride it faster than I ever could the KTM, even though the KTM has significantly more power and about the same weight.

But what really soured me on the KTM was reliability (the lack thereof). That bike had $3300 worth of engine repairs in the space of a couple months. KTM picked up $1000 of it, the previous owner and I paid the rest.

That $3300 is about equal to the total amount I have wrapped up in the entire XR650L! The only problem I have had with the Honda (and it has 22,000 miles on it) turned out to be a defective spark plug.

The Honda is a farm implement, technologically speaking, when compared with the KTM. The KTM is a bitch to do maintenance on, and needs it more frequently. I can change the oil & filter and adjust the valves on the Honda in an hour.

The KTM is sexier, but I honestly prefer my XR650L. For me, it just works better.
 
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mightslip

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yeah i know michael your very happy with yours and it seens to be all you say....;) it's on top of my "list at the moment honda reliability and all....

so how about the mz baghira i hear it's a great bike
2 versions black cat
and street moto
anyone have experiance with them?

i know ray<drz loves his drz400 where does it fall in? like the 450 husky?

i owned a dr650 and it was as bland as a bike could get and sure isn't what im looking for now..

sorry to ask all these questions but i don't want to end up with something i'll hate...
 

Max Smiley

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black panther wasn't it called? I checked out the MZ too, more a dual sport than supermoto, in weight and equipment but still a nice ride.
 

zefflyn

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Here it is:

http://www.motorradna.com/MODEL-STREETMOTO.htm
street.jpg


THey have a 660cc motor, which is pretty good, and I think it's made by Yamaha, which is good for parts. It's pretty heavy, though, and MSRP is pretty high ($7,695.00).
 
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