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Yeah, but we're not as stupid as the people that think we're stupid.It's stupid but a lot of people think we're stupid for even being on bikes in the first place.
Yeah, but we're not as stupid as the people that think we're stupid.It's stupid but a lot of people think we're stupid for even being on bikes in the first place.
Richard Quigley Refused to where a helmet and put a DOT sticker on his hat. Kept fighting in court that the Police were not trained to recognize a DOT helmet and kept winning until the court and cops finally gave up.
Wait, a few hundred dollars in fines --if that-- is now "a whole heap of trouble"? Boo-hoo. Disapprove much?...I'm willing to bet they are in a whole heap of trouble right now.
There is no 80 south. :x
Not that I disagree with the helmet law, but the penalty is a small fine. Not exactly what I'd call "a whole heap of trouble"... :laughing
Wait, a few hundred dollars in fines --if that-- is now "a whole heap of trouble"? Boo-hoo. Disapprove much?
If a cop pulled them over there's no way he's going to let them continue riding without helmets.
Important caveat, though, is that when a driver loses control of her car, it's easier for her to regain control if she's properly fastened to her seat, within reach of the steering wheel, pedals, e-brake, etc. In other words, a properly fastened driver may be the difference between an out-of-control car with a chance of regaining control, and a 2-ton bowling ball....same thing with seat belts in cars...
I fully agree with his argument. And if he had an attorney, like say the ACLU, I bet he would have prevailed through the State Supreme Court.They would have been fine if she hat a DOT sticker on her ponytail.
Anyone remember Quig??
Richard Quigley Refused to where a helmet and put a DOT sticker on his hat. Kept fighting in court that the Police were not trained to recognize a DOT helmet and kept winning until the court and cops finally gave up.
BTW... there is a course for that now kiddo's so they can be certified.
I call bull shit. I have put together better material than the attorneys on the same day and got no where, more than once. While it is possible, I believe you must be a member of the attorney club, or your are fighting with handcuffs on.I've been told that traffic judges really appreciate and tend to give the benefit of the doubt to someone who does his homework, does the research, knows the particular applicable laws, etc. Because it's INTERESTING to the judge: not the usual childish excuses and whining they are forced to sit through all day, every day, over and over and over.
Wow. Amazing how I virtually always get the guys who don't let you go. :laughingWhile you may be right, how's that a whole heap of trouble? Besides, a good chunk if not the vast majority of policemen are very cool people. It's not uncommon for policemen let people go without even a warning.
The fine isn't so much the problem as being stuck on the side of gridlock freeway waiting either for somebody to deliver helmets or a truck to tow the bike. If a cop pulled them over there's no way he's going to let them continue riding without helmets.
My mom usually made me wear one and sit in back when I was little, but it wasn't gospel like it is now. :laughing
don't tread on my right to splatter my brains all over the freeway for some unlucky roadworkers to come and clean up!
I call bull shit. I have put together better material than the attorneys on the same day and got no where, more than once. While it is possible, I believe you must be a member of the attorney club, or your are fighting with handcuffs on.
HOWEVER, I have directly been asked by a Court Commissioner if I had a law degree, and told that I should have hired someone with a law degree to present my case.
"You" was the big, general social, you. Not specifically you. Don't be offended, please.