Do we really understand what discrimination feels like???

Eldritch

Eldritch

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One of the best things the French ever did was in their constitution they made it illegal for the Government to take a census by ethnic identity. They are all French together.
 
bojangle

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Eldritch said:
One of the best things the French ever did was in their constitution they made it illegal for the Government to take a census by ethnic identity. They are all French together.
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Don't they have/make issues with Arab Muslim immigrants and such?

But, yeah, I appreciate the idea.
 
Eldritch

Eldritch

is insensitive
bojangle said:
Don't they have/make issues with Arab Muslim immigrants and such?

But, yeah, I appreciate the idea.
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This is more recent in Post Colonial France, but it is an immigrant problem, not a French problem.

Certainly they are not free from social conflict, but as observed in the above experiment. Everyone that got along great 10 minutes ago starts becoming enemies the minute you brand them as, "other group."

This is why hyphenated(Irish/African/Mexican/whatever) Americans is a problem mindset, it fundamentally creates division that is to the benefit of the power brokers looking to manipulate Democracy. There was a big report on this someone posted on BARF a year or two ago.

ETHNIC DIVERSITY DESTROYS DEMOCRACY. The more people stand together as one thing, the better community they have. The people who set themselves apart, especially if you tell the rest of the community you have to use certain words or act certain ways to accommodate them, the faster you rise to conflict.
 
cheez

cheez

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I spent six months living in Mumbai, India. As a 400lb, 6', bearded white guy, I was somewhat an oddity there. I'd usually be thronged with begging children anywhere I went, would get offered prices 10x what the things cost, etc. It was interesting to experience a different type of prejudice- the assumption that a fat white guy is wealthy, for instance- and be treated accordingly.

I've been pulled over for "Driving while White" in India... and I wasn't even driving (company issued driver/car.) Police officer on a streetcorner sees me in the front seat of the car and does a double take- blows his whistle, pulls the car over. The driver tells me "He wants a 400 Rupee fine for a dirty front license plate." I get out, look at the plate, it's clean- the driver washes the car daily. Driver tells me "If you don't pay, he will take you to jail." I pull out my wallet, show that it's empty. "ATM" police guy says, and points, and grabs my arm, and starts frog-marching me the 400yds towards the ATM machine. My driver follows in the car. I withdraw 400 rupees ($5.50 USD) and give it to him, he smiles, says "Have nice day" and walks back towards his streetcorner.

That happened no less than a dozen times over six months. After the second time I learned to keep a few hundred rupees on me in cash to just give over and end the harassment.

Do I think it's much different for black men in America? Not really, except they don't have the privilege of being able to bribe their way out of the trouble it's imagined they're in. That leads me to a lot of empathy regarding their encounters with police.
 
GAJ

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As a white guy with British parents, no, discrimination is not something I deal with even once a decade.

But I distinctly remember having to go into the Miami office to renew my Green Card and being treated as a piece of immigrant shit by the personnel there who were of all colors and nationalities.

I found that very odd and disconcerting/humiliating. I got a little pissed off but did nothing of course.

I can imagine how that would wear one down/anger someone if it happened on a regular basis which it obviously does to people of different easily identifiable ethnicities and colors.
 
wazzuFreddo

wazzuFreddo

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Eldritch said:
One of the best things the French ever did was in their constitution they made it illegal for the Government to take a census by ethnic identity. They are all French together.
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I don't remember how it came up but I remember explaining to my Irish coworker how I thought it was fucked up that the county records person got pissed off when she asked me "White Latino or White Non Latino" and I responded "both" and she told me it couldn't be written down like that (even through that is the most accurate description of our family.

My coworker was shocked, his response was, "shit, it is against the law for the government here to ask a question like that."
 
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Eldritch

Eldritch

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cfives said:
Cultural homogeneity has absolutely no relation to democracy that I can visualize, care to elaborate on that sentiment?
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There are a ton of studies out there on it. Nations populated by more ethnically diverse populations are invariably manipulated by control agents to divide and disrupt based on those ethnic barriers.

Studies seem to show universally that diverse ethnicity itself is not a problem in Community and does not create Democratic disruption, so often it can work on a local scale, but the more macro you observe these differences with large detached control structures, the greater the occurrence of ethnic differences being weaponized by Political Groups.

The aforementioned report from BARF (wish I could find it) had shown a global population of about 517 Ethnic groups if I remember right. Not surprisingly, the most ethnically diverse nations were all in Central Africa.

The point being, it is ok to have a different genetic origin from your neighbors, but the minute your identity is tied to those genetic differences rather than your national identity, you give disruptive control agents weapons to use against your community.

wazzuFreddo said:
I don't remember how it came up but I remember explaining to my Irish coworker how I thought it was fucked up that the county records person got pissed off when she asked me "White Latino or White Non Latino" and I responded "both" and she told me it couldn't be written down like that (even through that is the most accurate description of our family.

My coworker was shocked, his response was, "shit, it is against the law for the government here to ask a question like that."
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Just do like me and put African American. We all come from Africa. Race is a bunch of nazi bullshit.
 
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RRR70

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As a Jew who was born and raised in jew friendly USSR, nope, I have to idea what discrimination feels like.
 
Eldritch

Eldritch

is insensitive
RRR70 said:
I’ll fight ya!
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