Cuties

msethhunter

Well-known member
When I see a review of a film that says "If you have to register as a you know what (sex offender), maybe this film isn't for you", it makes me ask "maybe this film shouldn't have been made".

From what I hear, there's preteen girls twerking, and taking off their pants and panties to take pictures of themselves. Sounds like pedophile soft core porn to me.
 

cheez

Master Of The Darkside
It's no different than a Hannah Montana movie. If you're 50 and male and watching it by yourself, it's f'n creepy, and you're not the intended audience.

Teenage coming-of-age media has always been. Don't be a perv.
 

CocoLoco

FN #5
Remember when "coming of age" movies were like Meatballs and Police Academy? The target audience was implied, not explicit, so there was no need for tweens to be shown on camera in sexually explicit ways.

A story doesn't have to involve characters of the same age as its target audience. Hopefully Hollywood will remember this at some point.
 

TylerW

Agitator
There's an interesting story to this one. Its a French film called Les Mignonnes that centers on young female dance troupes, but the director (who was in that world when she was a child/young teen) also crafted in a subplot of the problematic natures of these troupes and how young girls become hypersexualized.

Then netflix came on board as the US distributer and how did they market it? my hypersexualizing the young girls.

Good job, netflix. They took what should be a complicated and nuanced concept and simplified it by selling it to creepos.
 
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Tally Whacker

Not another Mike
OK, I just watched the trailer for Les Mignonnes. It looks like a coming of age film centered around a group of girls in a poor immigrant neighborhood, focused mainly on the disconnect one girl experiences between her religious Sudanese family and the European culture she's trying to integrate into.
The dance bits and the shopping for sexy clothes seemed to be simply plot points and certainly not the focus of the film.

The Netflix trailer is exactly the same- I mean, it's the same trailer.

Based on the trailer, this looks to me like a film about girls trying to navigate the transition into puberty and womanhood. The movie was made by a woman, and the story is told from the point of view of the kids- but as adults, we look at this and are scandalized by behavior we, as adults, encourage at the same time.

I mean, how horrifying (for the very same reasons) is American pageant culture? Does anybody remember seeing the clip of JonBenet Ramsay singing "Do you want to touch me?"

The reality is that girls that age don't yet understand sexuality, but are starting to realize that it is a useful tool in their arsenal. At the same time, there are adults (and older kids) perfectly willing to take advantage of that naiveté and budding sex drive.

That this film portrays that experience in an unflinching manner should be lauded. A quick perusal of youtube clips mentioning Cuties seems to be nothing but a ton of sanctimonious slams against Hollywood libertines- never mind that it's a film made halfway across the world from Los Angeles.

I agree that it's a difficult subject, but at the same time, it's real. from what I can see, it isn't promoting pedophilia at all- in fact, shining light on the subject does just the opposite. That said, yeah, a 50 year old man going to watch this by himself has a skeeviness factor to it. I'm not too likely to watch it, but mainly because I hardly watch anything on TV at all.

Personally, I'd lump this in with films like Beasts Of No Nation or Johnny Mad Dog in spotlighting how terrible we are as adults at creating safe environments for kids.
 

ScarySpikes

tastes like burning
So...

To clarify, we are talking about this film?


youtu.be/M0O7lLe4SmA

I get why people were a bit bothered by the promo art that Netflix used originally, but the actual movie is apparently a critique of exactly the behavior that all of the people screaming about it are, themselves, being critical of.

The movie is fine. From the sound of it, it's nothing like what angry critics are accusing it of being.
 

TylerW

Agitator
A long time ago, I was in NYC to cover New York ComicCon. The Hotel I was staying in, at that same time, was hosting an event for one of these dance competitions for young girls.

The hotel only had two elevators, and the wait for them was agonizing because they were constantly shuttling folks between the competition area and their private rooms. And when you finally got in an elevator, you were surrounded by prepubescent girls, made up and dressed up like something between a vaudeville performer and a porn star.

It was UNCOMFORTABLE to say the least. I hated every elevator ride and eventually started taking the stairs, despite staying on the 15th floor.
 

easter bunny

Amateur Hour
A) Compare the original movie poster to the one they're marketing in the US. Sending very different messages.
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B) Compare this to Blazing Saddles. It's supposed to hold up a mirror to horrible behavior but some people can't see past the surface (and 99% haven't watched it, they're just told they should be outraged).
 

Tally Whacker

Not another Mike
If I were to guess what the film was based on looking at those posters, I'd assume that the film on the left was a dance competition movie about a group of twelve-year-olds.

That still wouldn't cause me to think it was overly sexualized, since when my son was around that age he liked those sorts of movies- though I can't remember any that featured kids quite that young.
 

dravnx

Well-known member
Typical, media taking something out of context, turning them into headlines and then people getting incensed without going past the headline.
 
Typical, media taking something out of context, turning them into headlines and then people getting incensed without going past the headline.

Coupled with the fact that you can't "defend" the movie for what it is else you're supporting pedophilia.

I've only seen the promo linked above.
 

Wolf

Experienced, not Skilled
I read an article about it a couple days back.

Basically the whole film is a critique of how overly sexualized young girls are these days.

It's not promoting or glamorizing the preteen sexualization, it's criticizing it as a bad thing.
 

Eldritch

is insensitive
When I see a review of a film that says "If you have to register as a you know what (sex offender), maybe this film isn't for you", it makes me ask "maybe this film shouldn't have been made".

From what I hear, there's preteen girls twerking, and taking off their pants and panties to take pictures of themselves. Sounds like pedophile soft core porn to me.

What the fucking fuck is this shitfuck shit?

WHAT IS HAPPENING?

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So...

To clarify, we are talking about this film?


youtu.be/M0O7lLe4SmA

I get why people were a bit bothered by the promo art that Netflix used originally, but the actual movie is apparently a critique of exactly the behavior that all of the people screaming about it are, themselves, being critical of.

The movie is fine. From the sound of it, it's nothing like what angry critics are accusing it of being.


Oh, it is French. All makes sense now. No reason to continue aggravation.

:laughing
 
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