California DMV Problems

ALANRIDER7

MeowMeowMeow
So when I moved out of CA, I registered my vehicle in another state. New license, new registration, new insurance ID card, no problem. They punched my CA license and specifically said I don't have to turn in my CA plates. I didn't even have to get a title from the new state- they said my CA title would be valid without issue.

Several months passed.

So I checked my online banking only to find I got bushwhacked for $525 by the Franchise Tax Board/CA DMV. The bank wouldn't even tell me what it was all about, although they did say that $100 of that $525 was their "fee" for this legal service. :wtf

No letter, no explanation, no notice, no nothing. :nchantr

I had to jump through several hoops only to find out the little known fact that when you leave the Golden State, you're supposed to file a form that tells them your vehicle will no longer be registered or driven in CA.

I had never heard of this before.

If you don't do this, they will institute collection proceedings against you for unpaid back registration fees. They say you are legally required to pay registration fees unless you sell the vehicle, go for non-op status or notify them in writing that you have moved or they go after you like a rabid dog to get them. You then have to deal with the idiotic bureaucracy that is CA DMV and the headaches to unwind the mess they make.

Now... any reasonable person would think not renewing means you no longer need a CA registration because of something like moving. Driving with expired tags is a huge red flag that will get you pulled over sooner or later.

So I was able to provide documentation and such to get the fees reversed, but this has got to be a big problem for people who move. I'm just trying to get the word out there to anybody who ever moves out of state. I looked in the drivers manual and there doesn't seem to be much of anything explaining this. They only say to file for non-op status if the vehicle will not be driven.
 

JesasaurusRex

Deleted User
Can you read? :rolleyes
Yes, i'm telling you you got lied to. I moved to NV not 2 years ago and didn't inform the CA DMV of anything and had no problems registering my wifes or my own vehicles. Nore did I get hit with any fees for not notifying CA DMV of my moving.
 

byke

Well-known member
I dream of a day when we have the technology to connect computers between states.
 

ALANRIDER7

MeowMeowMeow
I forgot to mention it also dinged my credit. The collection action showed up on my credit report even though it was a mistake. And that will take some effort to correct. :nchantr
 

zoomsplat

And I was all "Braap!"
IIRC, the "Franchise Tax Board" collects the state portion of the income tax. I didn't have to pay anything when I left CA, and never told them that I was leaving. I even brought the same vehicle back and they didn't question the gap in registration because I showed them the current NH registration when I reapplied; but that vehicle was purchased in NH to begin with.
 

ALANRIDER7

MeowMeowMeow
Yes, i'm telling you you got lied to. I moved to NV not 2 years ago and didn't inform the CA DMV of anything and had no problems registering my wifes or my own vehicles. Nore did I get hit with any fees for not notifying CA DMV of my moving.

Just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it won't. This took 20 months to happen to me.
 

zoomsplat

And I was all "Braap!"
I didn't even have to get a title from the new state- they said my CA title would be valid without issue.

This is probably the basis of the issue. CA never released the title to the new state, so they still thought the vehicle was in CA, perhaps...
 

Marcoose

50-50
So when I moved out of CA, I registered my vehicle in another state. New license, new registration, new insurance ID card, no problem. They punched my CA license and specifically said I don't have to turn in my CA plates. I didn't even have to get a title from the new state...

...when you leave the Golden State, you're supposed to file a form that tells them your vehicle will no longer be registered or driven in CA.

Sumthin' fishy.

You got a new registration but didn't get a new title. Usually the two go hand in hand if you register the vehicle in another state. You can't have it registered there and titled here. Whoever helped you at your DMV bamboozled you and you fell for it.

My tired wheels have moved from IL to MN to IL to CA and there was always a new registration and title. Never had any problem.
 

MrIncredible

Is fintastic
Sumthin' fishy.

You got a new registration but didn't get a new title. Usually the two go hand in hand if you register the vehicle in another state. You can't have it registered there and titled here. Whoever helped you at your DMV bamboozled you and you fell for it.

My tired wheels have moved from IL to MN to IL to CA and there was always a new registration and title. Never had any problem.

I don't see why it would matter where it's titled-the title just proves you own it.
 

Marcoose

50-50
I don't see why it would matter where it's titled-the title just proves you own it.

Conceptually yes, but that's seems to be exactly Alan's problem.

The registration (more or less) relates to the locale of (most) operation for (some) road taxes purposes. Lorries, rental cars, etc, may be different. Dunno. The title relates to the legal ownership in the books of a given state.

Getting NV plates and paying NV vehicle taxes while the title is still issued by CA is fishy. Hey, maybe it's just me, but having lived in 5 states, the DMVs issued new titles every time I registered an old vehicle. Zero problem. It cannot be coincidence. People relocate between states daily and that's the first time I've heard of it.
 
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