Archimedes
Fire Watcher
My understanding was that the only restriction was that, if there was only 1 VIN tag, the independent VIN verifiers can't do that verification anymore. It has to go to CHP. New rules to combat stolen cars being reVINd.
CA DMV does it again.
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My understanding was that the only restriction was that, if there was only 1 VIN tag, the independent VIN verifiers can't do that verification anymore. It has to go to CHP. New rules to combat stolen cars being reVINd.
originalsturge
litre bikes are fun
cause they havent had enough time to set it up since it was signed into law 10 years ago? hell they even had an extra 5 years to get it in place too.
MysterYvil
Mr. Bad Example
"Sound deadening?" Sounds like you may have bought a grey market vehicle. Lots of excuses with those.
Jalopyshoppe
idiot
I'd think that if it weren't an actual 71, with documentation clear back to 1986. I know the market for Defenders being sold as Series, but this is an actual Series 2a. As I said, there is one Vin plate present, but someone thought they could quiet the thing by sticking 1/4" thick foam all over the firewall and floor.
Probably too late for OP, but if anyone else gets an older vehicle that needs a VIN verification there are 3rd party services that usually have a better idea what is needed than the DMV clerks:
http://www.asapvehicleverifiers.com/VV2Prices.html
Once you are referred to CHP I think its too late as it will be flagged in DMV system.
I’ve heard if you are cool with CHP they can issue another VIN stamp matching your original VIN, vs issuing a new VIN. No first hand experience, but worth asking/begging and providing as much documentation as you can.
http://www.asapvehicleverifiers.com/VV2Prices.html
Once you are referred to CHP I think its too late as it will be flagged in DMV system.
I’ve heard if you are cool with CHP they can issue another VIN stamp matching your original VIN, vs issuing a new VIN. No first hand experience, but worth asking/begging and providing as much documentation as you can.
Archimedes
Fire Watcher
The third party services can no longer do a single tag car. They have to see two tags. I've used Valley VIN verifier multiple times and he told me recently that there now have to be two tags or they can't do it.
Jalopyshoppe
idiot
The rules changed again, and now they can do single VIN cars 1969 and older. Anything 1970 and newer needs 2 vin's. I did find my frame VIN. It's really hard to see, because rusted British steel. I've cancelled my CHP inspection altogether and will give DMV one more chance. Still not willing to let CHP put a tag on the car. Regardless if the number matches, it's still a death sentence value wise if that tag exists.
I went through this before with vintage EMPI dune buggies. I had forgotten how much BS is involved. They actually wanted a smog check on my 61 VW powered EMPI. The referee got a kick out of that.
I went through this before with vintage EMPI dune buggies. I had forgotten how much BS is involved. They actually wanted a smog check on my 61 VW powered EMPI. The referee got a kick out of that.
1962siia
Well-known member
:thumbup You can probably find blank rover transfercase info plate, might be worth looking into.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Land-Rover...ash=item3f6795470f:g:DdEAAOSwcN1aaHv5&vxp=mtr
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Land-Rover...ash=item3f6795470f:g:DdEAAOSwcN1aaHv5&vxp=mtr
Mike95060
Work In Progress
07chuck
POOP!!!
Hows this.
Screw some special plate or such.
Buy some dies and just hammer the "correct" number in 3 or 4 places where it might reasonably appear on that model.
"Well that same number is on the clutch bell housing and the rear differential,... it's a rare numbers matching car"...
OldMadBrit
Well-known member
Sorry I don't buy that at all. There will have been matching or series numbers from the factory for sure. Brit Landrover nuts are totally anal about this stuff.
If a number is missing, the provenance of the vehicle is questionable so a CHP VIN would be of little consequence.
Jalopyshoppe
idiot
Do a bit of reading. Engine numbers, trans numbers, axle numbers will all be similar but not matching. Usually within 1000 digits or so. It's the way they were built. Furthermore, the frames are piss poor and rust like hell. Having the corners replaced is quite common. As far as replacement VIN/pattern plates, there are many remanufacturers because they don't hold up well, either.
I don't want to sound all conspiracy theorist, but it does seem that California is making as many strides as possible to be hostyle towards enthusiasts both auto and Moto. It's akin to gun control arguments. They keep making old car ownership more difficult, so the only people who can get plates are people who skirt the rules, because regular people can't be bothered.
Bay Arean
Well-known member
Certain people don't believe in evil automobiles so yes, of course the state of California is aggressively anti-hobby car or even garage beaters via fees. I have an old pickup bought second-hand that will fail next smog test because I do not have a receipt for the non-original cat convertor. Or I can pay for a new one which would cost more than the value of the vehicle.
We're supposed to feel lucky we don't have to swap engines, like the Japanese, if they still do that....
Speaking of counterfeit, I have been meaning to ask for a long time here the following: Because we are motorcyclists, we notice license stickers more than regular drivers. Have you guys ever figured out why some California annual stickers have the full four digits of the year, versus the ones that have a global-type seal but just the last two digits of the year? I kept thinking they were fake but why the difference?
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KrustyKruser
El Chingon
Those two digit registration stickers are from DMV self serve kiosks.
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/pubs/newsrel/2017/2017_01
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/pubs/newsrel/2017/2017_01
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