Bug Out Locations

NolaNomad

Missing Benders
This post is loosely based on a growing concern many of us Barfer's have...
So I thought I'd bring it up here and now. Forgive me if ,in fact this subject is redundant.

Concerning those of us still residing in SF proper.

*This is not an open call for pot shots to us in the Barf community. Questioning our reasons or choices to live in SF is not the agenda here*

It may be that, privately, some have a plan and strategy for an extended and severe SHTF scenario. I do not, obviously. I would be willing to open a forum for intelligent discussion and planning in this case.

So residing in an apartment in a congested city bookended by fault lines and massive bodies of water, not the best for surviving a SHTF event.

I do take our fate living in the Bay seriously. My PTSD from living in the Superdome in New Orleans during Katrina 2005 is acting up just writing this..
Anybody need a tutorial in bartering stolen cigarettes for Sat-Phone time from a BBC reporter, let me know.

And yes I did just see San Andreas in 3D last night so, there's that....

I would be very interested in pooling our strengths. To discover a safe property or land wherein a few of us who are interested/committed to accomplish the following:

Secure, however the means, a plot of land Southeast of SF. Avoiding any bridges. Planning a route would be done depending on Bug Out local.

To acquire/build a safe house or install Shipping Containers fit for living or at least storage at the BOL.

To store a protected stash of goods and equipment for an extended survival group situation. This can be done on the merits of the individual or bought in as a group, depending.

To set up Ham Radio repeaters in proximity of BOL.

To dig a well for fresh H2O or install filtration. BOL must be accessible to a source of fresh water.

To build or install protection against EMP event or attack.

To install a defensive perimeter to alert of incoming friends or wild game.

To outfit the camp with alternative energy sources.

To figure out long term foodstuffs. Farming,green housing, seed storage, Root cellars etc.

To establish an agreement of safety, cooperation and competency among the few of us who actually filter out and do this for real.

To share the cost now, of obtaining the real estate and building materials in anticipation of the SHTF event.

About me:

If any of this sounds reasonable then we should PM.
I'm still recovering from a gnarly T-Bone, back in November.
My Surgeon thinks I'll be walking soon, hence the post in anticipation.
I've got time to plan, search, communicate and set up a blueprint of the current idea. Got some budget to allocate to a GTFO plan.
I'd be wanting to hear from Barfers and friends of ours in the community willing to provide land or lease to build a safe location..

Anyone serious about getting our shit together PM only please..
 
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Bronto

Well-known member
Interesting planning. Noticed how useful the boats were during the exodus of the City. Freeways clog immediately, people resort to walking past abandoned cars.
Too bad about the tidal wave :p Faster boat needed :laughing
 

NolaNomad

Missing Benders
That kind of water can only be managed by out running it (dual sport Moto, overland, avoiding traffic, blockades) or taking flight. Trust me, I've witnessed a metropolitan city, flooded in minutes. White water crested sewage. 12 foot high. Bodies, dead and bloated in the sun. Floating like logs. Pretty gross. Don't underestimate the water.
 

Archimedes

Fire Watcher
First rule of safe house is the same as the first rule of fight club. And you've already violated it.
 

russ69

Backside Slider
Oh boy. There are many things to worry about in life but my way of thinking is to worry about the more common things first. Have you saved one year of income? Are you planning for your retirement?
In the SHTF scenario the best thing to do is to go where the is no SHTF. Usually that means just getting out of the urban areas. If it is worse than that it means driving 300 miles out of town (usually less). As a motorcyclist that should be easy to do. Now if the whole US of A is upside down, get up to Canada ASAP before they close the border. In the end there is no successful way to plan for a breakdown of society. It's just best to leave the area and insure your personal safety.
 
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Corb

Banned
The conclusion I got from San Adreas was that I need a helicopter and to learn to fly it or at least a Cesna and a magical parachute that is both good for my 145lbs and just in case good for double that weight in case I need to tandem jump with somebody I like.
Maybe I'm just ignorant but the whole "bug out" scene seems cucu for coco puffs.
Here in AZ is everywhere. Bug out camper van, bug out bicycle, bug out disguised work trailer... Is like they replaced the fun word "adventure" with the paranoid "bug out" for no reason what so ever
Its also the kind of people who use words like "Obunga" and "libtards" that are usualy in to that scene so maybe thats why its not my thing.
 

NolaNomad

Missing Benders
Oh boy. There are many things to worry about in life but my way of thinking is to worry about the more common things first. Have you saved one year of income? Are you planning for your retirement?
In the SHTF scenario the best thing to do is to go where the is no SHTF. Usually that means just getting out of the urban areas. If it is worse than that it means driving 300 miles out of town (usually less). As a motorcyclist that should be easy to do. Now if the whole US of A is upside down, get up to Canada ASAP before they close the border. In the end there is no successful way to plan for a breakdown of society. It's just best to leave the area and insure your personal safety.

Agreed Russ..
Personal stuff is personal stuff. I wouldn't put myself out there/here if my long game wasn't on board. As a refugee and living in an actual SHTF scenario, there is little but survival. Maybe that's the difference between me and most folks I know. Hence the Thread.

Any Barfer's or friends of the Barf community who are on the same page, Do feel free to PM.
 

NolaNomad

Missing Benders
The conclusion I got from San Adreas was that I need a helicopter and to learn to fly it or at least a Cesna and a magical parachute that is both good for my 145lbs and just in case good for double that weight in case I need to tandem jump with somebody I like.
Maybe I'm just ignorant but the whole "bug out" scene seems cucu for coco puffs.
Here in AZ is everywhere. Bug out camper van, bug out bicycle, bug out disguised work trailer... Is like they replaced the fun word "adventure" with the paranoid "bug out" for no reason what so ever
Its also the kind of people who use words like "Obunga" and "libtards" that are usualy in to that scene so maybe thats why its not my thing.

You seen it all Corb. Good points.
The point of my thread is not really to set one's political brand or motivations.
But more to coax out the few fellow motorcyclists in the community that I addressed, here in San Francisco, Ca. to support each other in a time of need. With a Plan. This is not a burning man practice at the Tosh.O arena sponsored by Ranch dressing.
 

Corb

Banned
You seen it all Corb. Good points.
The point of my thread is not really to set one's political brand or motivations.
But more to coax out the few fellow motorcyclists in the community that I addressed, here in San Francisco, Ca. to support each other in a time of need. With a Plan. This is not a burning man practice at the Tosh.O arena sponsored by Ranch dressing.

Its ok, don't take it personal, do your thing...
 

Blankpage

alien
If I was concerned about the SHTF scenario that very likely could hit the bay area I wouldn't want to be living on the peninsula side of the bridges.
I'd be getting out of town asap and a gassed up KLR in the garage might be the answer to gridlocked freeways.

The whole thing sounds nuts and paranoia, until it happens and you're not ready.
 

NolaNomad

Missing Benders
If I was concerned about the SHTF scenario that very likely could hit the bay area I wouldn't want to be living on the peninsula side of the bridges.
I'd be getting out of town asap and a gassed up KLR in the garage might be the answer to gridlocked freeways.

The whole thing sounds nuts and paranoia, until it happens and you're not ready.

Agreed Blankpage.
Something is always better than nothing. I'm kinda trapped , book-ended by fault lines and water. I need a plan to get somewhere other than here. If you think about it I live at future ground zero.
 

rodr

Well-known member
As far as SHTF goes, I'd say economic meltdown is way more likely. U.S. unfunded liabilities per household currently stands at $993,953. Got your share covered?

That and more big numbers are here.
 

954Rider

Well-known member
Accept fate. When the big earthquake hits we are all fucked. Those who survive unscathed will be unlucky. I don't think any amount of planning is going to get you anywhere. Maybe if you had a heli pad with a chopper and pilot fueled ready to go, I think only Larry Ellison will survive then. Then again the earthquake may not even hit in our lifetimes. I don't think about it, cause I know there's not a damn thing I can do about it besides moving to Montana.
 

NolaNomad

Missing Benders
Accept fate. When the big earthquake hits we are all fucked. Those who survive unscathed will be unlucky. I don't think any amount of planning is going to get you anywhere. Maybe if you had a heli pad with a chopper and pilot fueled ready to go, I think only Larry Ellison will survive then. Then again the earthquake may not even hit in our lifetimes. I don't think about it, cause I know there's not a damn thing I can do about it besides moving to Montana.

No comment...
 

panthera

Ride or Die
I don't think about it, cause I know there's not a damn thing I can do about it besides moving to Montana.

On your way to Montana you will be passing people bugging out of Yellowstone. Seems like wherever you live someone wants to bug out of there. Yeah I think I will worry about things that are more likely to happen. Economy, my job, my kids and wife's wellfare, making my house payment, putting my kids through college. Honestly I'm so busy I don't have time to build a shelter with rings of security so I can grow vegetables and fight off humans. Seems kind of along the lines of all of the zombie shows. I'm not concerned. Prolly because I don't own a television.

Ps. I hope all is well for you. It took me a year to walk again. Good luck my friend.
 
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RRR70

Attack Helicopter
I don't have a BOL. Mostly because I don't live in imaginary world. If something happens to the Bay Area, it'll be contained to the Bay Area. Outside of this region it will be the life as before, including government structure, police and military. And criminals. So your biggest issue won't be having enough supplies, but how to protect your supplies.
 

Wormwood

Is right behind you
Emergency supply of food, water, fuel, fire and cash.

Guns and ammo are a plus.


Taken care of me and mine. :p
 

Ogier le Danois

Well-known member
I don't have a BOL. Mostly because I don't live in imaginary world. If something happens to the Bay Area, it'll be contained to the Bay Area. Outside of this region it will be the life as before, including government structure, police and military. And criminals. So your biggest issue won't be having enough supplies, but how to protect your supplies.

You will not be able to property defend a stick built building against a group
Of attackers.

They will burn you out easily.

In a true apocalyptic situation most of the population will be dead in a few weeks. Medication won't last long, packaged food will be gone quickly, game is not plentiful enough to feed even a small portion of the U.S. Population, hunting and cooking will attract other desperate people to any camp you may have.

I know people love to romanticize surviving, but the reality is most of us will be dead. Anyone living in a metro area will be more likely to die quickly.
 
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